Steve,

You've both missed the point and are unfortunately mistaken.

It's not a question of "branding", it's a question of protocol 
compatibility.  The UltraVNC project does not retain compatibility with 
the RFB protocol, which is why it isn't compatible with standard VNC 
releases.  By contrast, the TightVNC hobby project has been able to 
proceed, adding custom features to our core system and using their own 
custom protocol elemants while retaining compatiility with the standard.

As far as "branding" is concerned, please bear in mind that VNC is 
developed by RealVNC Ltd.  TightVNC and UltraVNC are projects based on our 
codebase, not "brands" of our software.

I hope this clarifies your misunderstanding of the situation.  Your 
customers will be happier knowing that your products use fully 
VNC-compatible software rather than software that breaks compatibility 
with the protocol!

Cheers,

Wez @ RealVNC Ltd




On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Steve Bostedor wrote:

> James and everyone else,
> 
> I agree that it's not  RealVNC 4.x brand compatible but it is VNC compatible
> in the sense that it is using a VNC protocol and works with any VNC that is
> not the RealVNC brand 4.x base.  That's like saying that it's not Microsoft
> Windows compatible unless it runs on Windows Vista.  :)
> 
> UltraVNC and TightVNC are very popular versions of VNC that are actively
> developed and very feature rich thanks to these "hobbiests".  They should
> not be ignored simply because they don't use the same code base as the
> RealVNC branded 4.x code base.
> 
> 
> I don't mean to be the annoying accuracy cop here but this distinction needs
> to be clear.  UltraVNC and RightVNC are RFB compatible VNC servers that
> branch from and improve upon the original 3.x code base while maintaining
> backwards compatibility (unlike the 4.x code base).
> 
> Steve Bostedor
> Bozteck Solutions
> http://www.bozteck.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Weatherall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 1:01 PM
> To: 'Steve Bostedor'; vnc-list@realvnc.com
> Subject: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction of New VNC
> codec)
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> As I pointed out in my original response, the problem with them having
> patched against the UltraVNC hobby project is that that's not
> VNC-compatible.  Better to product patches against something VNC-compatible,
> or, better still, the standard VNC codebase, if you want people to be able
> to use it!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Wez @ RealVNC Ltd.
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Bostedor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: 02 February 2007 17:29
> > To: 'James Weatherall'; 'Hitachi Systems & Services, Ltd.'; 
> > vnc-list@realvnc.com
> > Subject: RE: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: 
> > Introduction of New VNC codec)
> > 
> > Why not patch against both?  The UltraVNC and TightVNC 
> > flavors are just as
> > popular as RealVNC.  Why limit yourself to just one version of VNC?
> > 
> > 
> > Steve Bostedor
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of James Weatherall
> > Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:31 AM
> > To: 'Hitachi Systems & Services, Ltd.'; vnc-list@realvnc.com
> > Subject: Hitachi-ZYWRLE Encoding Number (was RE: Introduction 
> > of New VNC
> > codec)
> > 
> > Hi Noriaki-san,
> > 
> > I've had encoding number 17 allocated to Hitachi ZYWRLE - using this
> > encoding number will ensure compatibility with standard VNC and
> > VNC-compatible releases.  The next release of the VNC codebase will
> > therefore include an encoding "place-holder":
> > 
> >   const int encoding3rdPartyHitachiZYWRLE = 17;
> > 
> > > >I note that you have a version of the UltraVNC hobby project 
> > > patched with
> > > >your scheme.  Since the UltraVNC project is not 
> > > VNC-compatible, you will
> > > >need to switch to a VNC-compatible codebase if you want to 
> > > provides VNC
> > > >viewers & servers with your custom encoding.
> > > 
> > > You say that I need to make patch for RealVNC server, don't you?
> > > (Sorry to my poor understanding to English...)
> > 
> > Not necessarily - which particular VNC version, or VNC-based 
> > software, you'd
> > like to patch your encoding against is entirely up to you.  I'd would
> > recommend either patching against the standard VNC release, or a
> > VNC-compatible project such as TightVNC.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > --
> > Dr James Weatherall
> > Chief Engineering Officer - http://www.realvnc.com - RealVNC Ltd
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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