I'm not mistaken about the gravitational impact of a fleet of flying cars suspended in the air by a reactionless propulsion, the earth would face many millions or billions of tons of net force pushing on it.
The question is how long would this take to effect the earth's orbit significantly? Days? Years? Decades? Centuries? Millenna? At any rate it would eventually disturb the earth's current orbit dramatically. Something to be cautious of. John On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 6:26 AM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > Axil, one more jump and you will be out on the limb as far as me :_ you > said [snip] In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles > and structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano > structures.[/snip].. I agree and even suggest that ALL catalytic action > is based on geometry – not as powerful as a skeletal catalyst or nano > powders [we don’t need relativistic levels of negative vacuum pressure to > shake things up/catalyze], dynamic changes in geometry at even small > Casimir levels will still oppose random motion , even looping forever in a > closed irregular cavity should generate friction for trapped ambient gas > [don’t ask about levitating pyramid calcium -lime blocks yet :_)]– forcing > random motion [HUP] to accelerate chemical reactions thru changes in > confinement. I think that simple catalytic action is actually a Heisenberg > trap based on lesser geometry. It puts random motion of liquids and gas > into opposition with smaller changes in negative vacuum pressure. [in supra > catalysts we would call this dynamic Casimir effect and the confinement is > sufficient that we hear of radioactive half lives being altered in both > directions which IMHO is based on which type of partition [+ or -] the > radioactive particle happens to favor based on it’s shape atomic or > molecular]. In normal catalysts I don’t think the radioactive decay > differential is significant – just like Lorentzian contraction and time > dilation only occur near hi fractions of C, I think dilation of radioactive > half lifes require a supra catalyst BUT catalytic action derives most of > it’s power to drive reactions from sharp changes in the vacuum pressure > packed closely together – since the geometry is stationary it requires a > moving medium and sharp irregular shaped geometries pressed close together > – the same as nano powders and skeletal cats but less critical and less > powerful. > > Citations: > > a 2009 paper, “Pinpointing catalytic reactions on carbon nanotubes > <http://www.physorg.com/news159199255.html> “, by Peng Chen et all from > Cornell Univercity in which researchers discovered that catalytic action > only occurs when this nanogeometry CHANGES at the openings and defects of a > nanotube. Cavity QED > <http://www.actaphys.uj.edu.pl/_old/vol27/pdf/v27p2409.pdf> , And My blog > http://froarty.scienceblog.com/32155/relativistic-interpertation-of-casimir-effect-expanded/ > > > > Fran > > *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 12:08 PM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way > above the Theoretical Limit > > > > From a previous post except in part as follows: > > > > have referenced papers here to show how the confinement of electrons on > the surface of gold nanoparticles: a nanoplasmonic mechanism can change the > half-life of U232 from 69 years to 6 microseconds. It also causes thorium > to fission. > > > > See references: > > > > > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1112.6276&ei=nI6UUeG1Fq-N0QGypIAg&usg=AFQjCNFB59F1wkDv-NzeYg5TpnyZV1kpKQ&sig2=fhdWJ_enNKlLA4HboFBTUA&bvm=bv.46471029,d.dmQ > > > > Experiments showing the same mechanism as listed below: > > > > "Laser-induced synthesis and decay of Tritium under exposure of solid > targets in heavy water" > > > > http://arxiv.org/abs/1306.0830 > > > > Initiation of nuclear reactions under laser irradiation of Au > nanoparticles in the presence of Thorium aqua ions > > > > http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4268.pdf > > > > =============================== > > > > In these experiments, nano geometry converts light energy from the laser > into vortex motion of electrons in a nanoplasmonic soliton produced on the > surface of the gold nanoparticles. Without the gold nanoparticles, laser > light alone is ineffectual in this type of experiment. > > > > The soliton produces the separation of the vacuum into positive and > negative zones. It also forces the entanglement of the soliton with the > U232 nucleus by pumping energy into the vacuum. This vacuum energy pumping > using EMF energy from microwaves also happens in the EmDrive system. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > > > In another thought, catalatic action of nano sized particles and > structures could be based on time acceleration by those nano structures. > Rossi has used a nickel based catalatic micro particle and amplified its > effects by using nanoparticles of lithium to amplify the catalatic time > acceleration effect to a huge amount. This amplification is done through > SPP asymmetric coupling, where a large soliton feeds energy > superconductively into a series of smaller solitons...like a transformer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Roarty, Francis X < > francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > > Axil, > > You also mentioned [snip] In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a > half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. > > That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR > are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of > negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in > the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of > matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton > soliton[/snip] > > > > I don’t know how these experiments were performed but I suspect that only > a small portion of the radioactive gas can be in the most negative zones at > a time such that the effect is actually greater still.. even if fully > contained in a cavity [instead of cycled thru], only the gas migrating into > the most confined tapestry of the nano geometry [1/plate spacing^3] would > receive the realativistic levels of dilation. > > Fran > > *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 2:34 AM > *To:* vortex-l > *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way > above the Theoretical Limit > > > > Dear Francis X, > > > > I am coming around to your way of thinking. > > > > Regarding... > > > > “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of > the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s > true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ > > > > The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of > positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low > energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic > interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce > longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the > "false" vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to > keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum > energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum > energy. > > > > The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough > to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s > momentum laws. > > > > > > Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR > reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into > positive and negative zones. > > > > This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value > in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of > forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from > one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of > virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle > creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon > virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s > interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average > maximum speed of light through the vacuum. > > > > In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. > This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per > unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the > speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. > > Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. > > > > LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative > zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone > suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. > > > > LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. > This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive > atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression > in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of > negative vacuum energy. > > > > If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle > production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to > the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. > > > > In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was > reduced to 6 microseconds. > > > > That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR > are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of > negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in > the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of > matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton > soliton > > > > I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time > acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure > where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma > production is reduced and/or the half-life of the isotope is reduced then > the effects of negative vacuum energy on time will be verified both in the > EmDrive and in LENR. > > > > > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Roarty, Francis X < > francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > > We don't know enough to answer the question because we don't know enough > about the origin of the force. Even if it is relativistic as Shawyer claims > and the spatial area occupied by the device modifies the encompassed > inertial frames that breach the isotropy there remains a strong likelihood > that an equal and opposite frame is created and the device is only able to > directionalize gravity to produce thrust..NOT able to accumulate a > buoyancy. IMHO his use of the term thrust is probably correct and that we > won't get a bubble from microwaves in a shaped cavity. > Fran > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:50 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above > the Theoretical Limit > > Hovering does not violate Newton's laws IMHO. Energy and momentum are > conserved. > > Bob Cook > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <mix...@bigpond.com> > To: <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the > Theoretical Limit > > In reply to Frank Znidarsic's message of Mon, 11 May 2015 18:58:16 -0400: > Hi Frank, > [snip] > >The video states that m drive obeys Newtow's laws. It has no reaction > >mass. It does not obey Newton's laws. That comment was an understatement > >bordering on misinformation. > > > > > >Frank Z > > Which of Newton's laws does it violate? > > Does a car going down the road doesn't have reaction mass? Does it violate > Newton's laws? > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > > > > >
