Jed, I am not in agreement with that electricity is cheap. However, I live in the PG&E land so it is a little false background. I can actually produce electricity with a diesel generator at lower cost than I can buy it. If you cut in to pieces what I say you can object but as whole your arguments are rather weak. Producing electricity locally, in my opinion as local as possible has a long list of advantages. It is less vulnerable, no transmission cost to mention a few. If I can produce electricity at ten percent of what I pay today I would sat 'Tesla here I come'. In that scenario the price will be such an attraction that I would even set aside the difficulties with Teslas as it is today. I would not be the only one so the fear you have for high cost of transforming gas stations in to battery exchange stations has no merit. There will be more than adequate incentives for the investment. In addition I read about a lot of development as it pertains to charging of batteries quicker and big capacitors. I am sure that my suggestion about battery exchange will have more attractive alternatives I am unable to predict. You are saying there are disadvantages with electrical cars besides slow recharging. The price is one and I can guarantee that the cost of batteries will decrease if there is a real competition. Just now there is no aftermarket (not attractive due to high entry cost and small market), large scale production is rare (Tesla's plant in Reno, NV will change that). You say that generating plant should be in the Gigawatt scale. I think we are so far apart in that opinion so I hardly know where to begin. Reality is that the idea of big, inflexible, vulnerable, is an bygone idea. Small flexible society where we can minimize the number of rules to a level that you and I can understand and accept them requires a decentralized society, which is locally managed. (Locally can sometimes be local from other aspect than geography.) I am fine with one generator per house. It might be the best. There are factors like back up, safety and service that might drive the size. I agree with that one generator per house / building seems best. In addition to other advantages investments will be of a scale that make us all part of the decision making. We all have a hard time see the impact from large dollar commitments. Horatius Parkinson in the 1940-is gave an example from a meeting of the local town decision makers. There were two items on the agenda; a new bike-stand for the only guy fully employed by the town as he now parked his bike so it scratched the facade of the town hall, secondly a purchase of a new statue for the town square. The cost of bike stand was $29 and the statue was proposed at a million dollars. A long debate where all elected representatives had opinions. The employee could buy a bike stand, one could find a cheaper bike stand etc. etc. It ended with that the issue was tabled to next meeting. Then came the question about the statue took no time. It was approved after a positive presentation by the most informed person. Long story but it is meant to show that we are much more careful about numbers of the size we are used to deal with as private people. Nobody question if there are savings of $100,000 or $10,000 or even $20 on the statue. So to the safety issue. I based my statement on the fact presented in the suggested LENR induced by laser. I sounded safe and the suggestion was that it was possible to use in small scale. I would say that if we have been able to refine the ottomotor to a relatively safe product - it seems that with some engineering this proposed product has fewer hurdles to overcome, albeit it will require resources and time. Your point about electrical cars having issues. short range and power weight ratio is of course correct. I think the range will be extended and the weight reduced in next generation batteries. However, I am sure that we all can see reasons for driving an electrical car versus a gasoline powered ditto. Most of the time 84 miles is enough. It is convenient to have an electrical motor. I could change my car for an electrical one any day. JUst now the only hurdle is the capital investment.
Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:38 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com> wrote: > >> > >> If there is cheap electricity electrical cars are simple - fast to >> recharge. >> > > Electricity is already cheap. It is much cheaper than gasoline per mile. > Electric cars are not fast to recharge; they are slow. Cold fusion would do > nothing to change that. Even if electricity cost nothing, electric cars > will still be slow to recharge and they will still have a limited range > because of the weight and bulk of the batteries. The cars will still be > expensive because the batteries are expensive. > > > >> Even exchange of batteries is a possible way. >> > > This would cost tremendous amounts of money to implement on a large scale. > > > >> I really do not care for to have the reactor in the car. I am fine to >> have it locally. >> > > If the reactors are not perfectly safe they should not be installed > locally. If they are only as safe as today's gas-fired and coal fired > generators they should only be used on a gigawatt scale. > > If cold fusion reactors are safer than today's gasoline powered motors > they should be used in cars instead of those motors. Gasoline fueled > vehicles are not particularly safe. The fuel is toxic, and it often burn in > accidents. They pollute the air, and cause global warming. > > > >> Neighborhood power stations. 20 homes or similar. >> > > I do not see how this would be any safer or more cost-effective than > installing one generator per house. If the power station is safe enough for > 20 homes surely it would be safe enough for one. > > > >> There are many advantages with that as I think we all can see. Besides we >> can fix a job for the gas stations. Battery exchangers. >> > > I see no point to make-work jobs. No one is going to pay for battery > exchangers if we can have cold fusion orders instead. It would be far > cheaper and easier to implement. No infrastructure is needed. > > > Thus power to weight is not of great importance. >> > > The power to weight ratio of the battery+motor system is the limiting > factor for electric cars. That, plus the high cost of batteries, is why > they have such short ranges, such as 84 miles for the Nissan Leaf. > > - Jed > >
