The predicted properties of the hydrino or any sub-ground-state hydrogen
suggest that it will be really hard to detect.  According to Meulenberg,
these states lack sufficient angular momentum to have a photon
transaction.  Thus, the hydrino hydrogen would not have telltale absorption
spectra of any kind.  It must be detected by proxy.  Like detecting the
neutrino, detection of the hydrino will require new, inventive techniques
and custom (probably expensive) equipment.  Mills probably doesn't care as
long as his SunCell works based on his insight from the hydrino hypothesis.

Once I was visiting a university professor friend who had developed a nifty
hydrogen sensor based on a metal film that was so thin it could not be seen
even under the SEM.  I commented that having an invisible technology is
wonderful for being able to safely share your device for testing.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:

> One of the better articles to appear on the subject of LENR in the context
> of a valid commercial effort appeared recently in C&EN (which is becoming a
> top flight science journal) and was picked up by SciAm.
>
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cold-fusion-
> lives-experiments-create-energy-when-none-should-exist1/
>
> Stephen Ritter, the author, relies a lot on his expert Howard J. Wilk ,
> who is an organic chemist, obsessed with Randy Mills’s progress, still
> trying to decide if the SunCell commercialization effort is real or scam.
> The situation with Rossi is a little clearer on the negative side, and
> should be resolved in a few months, at least in its legal aspects, but the
> idea that Mills could be a more sophisticated con-artist is hard for many
> to digest. RM has real and impressive academic credentials and other
> business accomplishments (software)... and "no priors", as Harry Bosch
> would say. Much of the following is quoted or paraphrased from Ritter's
> fine article.
>
> In 2014, Wilk asked Mills if he had ever isolated hydrinos, and although
> Mills had previously written in research papers and patents that he had,
> Mills replied that he had not. Moreover, it would be “a really, really huge
> task.” Side note: This is an outright cop-out by Mills - since he was
> actually showing vials of hydrino compounds as far back as 15 years ago. No
> matter what his credentials are, Mills has the habit of spreading blatant
> falsehoods, to a lesser degree than Andrea Rossi, but enough to make one
> wonder if the same character flaws are not deeply embedded.
>
> Almost everyone who has closely followed Mills agrees: If the SunCell
> generates hydrinos and megawatts, then there has to be demonstrable hard
> evidence: “Show us the hydrino!” Wilk mentions four possible explanations:
> Mills’s science is actually correct, [but harder to tame than it should be,
> possibly missing a single piece of understanding], it’s a complete fraud by
> a genius with no morals [this could be closer to Rossi], or it’s just
> simply bad science [providing a lavish livelihood at investor's expense],
> or it’s what Nobel Laureate Irving Langmuir called "pathological
> science"... which is a kind of logical delusion that Langmuir himself
> suffered from, at times. We could add that a mix of several of these is
> more likely. Even so, even the skeptics hope that there is some grain of
> truth involved in the claims.
>
> “I hope they’re right,” Wilk says but he has never been a true believer.
> “I think if hydrinos existed, they would have been detected by others in
> laboratories or in nature years ago and would be used by now.” As an
> wanna-be-believer, I would add that the "solar wind" should be an
> undeniable source of hydrinos and should have shown the needed hard
> evidence, based on Mills theory, since it has been studied since 1859. You
> have to imagine that in the past 27 years, Mills has spent millions on
> finding real particles. If not, why not?
>
> We on this forum have for years been coming to same conclusion as Ritter:
> "All the discussions about cold fusion and LENR end this way: They always
> come back to the fact that no one has a commercial device on the market
> yet, and none of the prototypes seem workable on a commercial scale in the
> near future." Plus, the inventors always follow one failed effort with what
> looks like a serial scam, a next big disappointment and never let 3rd
> parties test any device independently.
>
> A real product, even if only micro scale or a toy - not a legal proceeding
> or massive fund-raising effort, will be the ultimate arbiter of truth...
> but isolating dense hydrogen in the solar wind, with the agreement of NASA,
> would help immensely.
>
> Another possible way to confirm - from Dufour's ICCF20 paper is the
> iron-55 evidence, the so-called pico-hydride.
>
> This is dense hydrogen, which is attached (magnetically?) to iron 54 in
> such a way that on mass-spec analysis, it looks like 55Fe - but is NOT
> radioactive. Normal 55Fe is strongly radioactive. This is brilliant ! and
> could be the smoking gun for dense hydrogen reality, but it does not come
> from Mills and has a different lineage, so to speak.
>
>
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