Jones—

I agree with your observation  regarding multiple simultaneous events and  the 
apparent lack of the involvement of single nuclei in a LENR event.

Magnetic coupling between multiple particles (nucleons and atomic and or 
plasmonic electrons or other magnetic dipoles) can allow sharing  their angular 
momentum (spin energy) simultaneously without the production of energetic 
charged particles.  This is a desirable characteristic of LENR, since it 
significantly reduces or eliminates hazardous radiation and nuclear activation 
associated with releases of neutrons.

  Mundane heat energy results in the small kinetic energy increases of many 
electrons and multiple nucleons in a crystal lattice.

Bob Cook



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From: JonesBeene <jone...@pacbell.net>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 7:14:19 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor 
to all future devices

“The energy release per atom would be useful, to narrow down the possibilities.”

Yes. No doubt this detail would be very useful to know, but is it even possible 
to know?
Probably NOT as of now – since it makes a fundamental assumption which is not 
proved.
That fundamental assumption is that energy release happens only once per atom – 
as in fusion. At first this seems to be a logical assumption, but fusion is not 
yet proved. If atoms produce lesser energy sequentially (still giving up mass)  
then the energy per atom would not be relevant since any atom could radiate 
excess energy several times or several million times during the run.
At this point we do no need to be specific about the details of the alternative 
mechanism to show the logical error, but there are several recognized 
possibilities that actually make as much sense as fusion including a version of 
the Hotson theory.
One particular  operative mechanism  which could change perceptions is related 
to  the experimental findings which have been provided by Hora, Miley, 
Winterberg and Holmlid, et al. going back many years, which involve 
Bose-Einstein clustering. There is no apparent limitation on how many times an 
individual atom can give up mass-energy in the Coulomb explosion if and when 
they occur sequentially.
To complicated matters – these experts suggest that the BEC cluster can act as 
an extremely efficient fusion target to be imploded with a laser. In that case 
the energy release per atom in the cluster would be less than the fusion of two 
deuterons – on average but the helium is thereafter unreactive so energy per 
atom would be useful to know.
There are other alternative mechanisms for gain not involving fusion. These 
researchers  also suggest or imply that clustering “alone” can produce 
significant excess energy with no fusion  and/or a delayed nucleon annihilation 
event. Here, we find  the sequential Coulomb explosion where atoms can 
participate many times.
Moreover, the Coulomb explosion is presently a proved mechanism with a 
signature emission which has been documented via experiment. In contrast there 
is no documented fusion evidence from the Mizuno breakthrough - as of now. It 
is a mistake to assume that this proof is just around the corner. It may not 
happen. I predict it will not.
If one is firmly convinced that deuterium fusion must be happening in the new 
Mizuno breakthrough due to the robustness of the output or their own per theory 
or patent -  be prepared to jump- ship since there is NO report of  helium 
which is an absolute requirement to prove that particular mechanism .
Until that time that substantial helium-4 is detected – the only gainful 
outcomes we know of  now from the published record are  non-fusion and one of 
them relates to the ~630 eV emission from Coulomb explosions. This gain is 
probably nuclear related but also probably not related to nuclear fusion, 
unless fusion is time-shifted in the QM sense so as to replace a deficit.
Jones



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