Jurg, I would be interested in what physical laws you think are violated by the deep-orbit electrons. Without the Dirac equation's "anomalous orbit" results, I don't think that we would have looked for the relativistic effects that make the deep orbits (and nuclear forces?) possible.
Andrew _ _ _ On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 6:18 PM Jürg Wyttenbach <ju...@datamart.ch> wrote: > I just want to remind some folks here that H*-H*, the only existing from > of dense hydrogen (besides D*-D*) has been measured by multiple methods by > Randal Mills, now some 3 years ago. Also Holmlid tried to measure the H*H* > bond energy but he did work with clusters of H* that suffer from multiple > bonds. > > The deep orbit models from Vavra, Meulenberg or others are just > mathematical fantasies, that violate basic physical laws. It's not > mathematics e.g. the Dirac equation that defines physics - its the other > way round physics defines the math that must fit. > > > So if you are interested in real physics check out R.Mills paper or > Holmlid. > > > (R.MILLS, Brilliant Light Power Shareholder_Meeting_040319 ; > BRLP_Analytical_Presentation_060419.pdf, R.Mills, p.108) > > J.W. > > > On 23.04.2022 21:22, Jones Beene wrote: > > > On the possibility of "dense helium" - shall we call it the "alpharino" ? > > Helium, unlike hydrogen, will not diffuse through metals - so long as the > metal is nonporous. The first step in densification is (probably) > diffusion... but that problem may not be the end-of-story. > > Raney nickel for instance is porous enough to pass helium and is also is > catalytic - as in the hydrino world of Randell Mills and his Rydberg > values. If Va'vra is right about helium shrinkage then a few possibilities > are opened up in the search for how that feat can be accomplished. > > An interesting experiment would simply look for anomalous heat as helium > is pumped through a Raney nickel membrane. > > > > HLV wrote: > > A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist > > Physics Letters B Volume 794, 10 July 2019, Pages 130-134 > > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624 > > > Thanks for posting this. One curious observation is that there are a few > other atoms besides hydrogen which may 'densify' : Presumably the dense > version would provide anomalous heat. > > Quote "Our calculation also shows that other fully ionized “small-*Z* > atoms” can form small-radius atoms... This would create atoms, where one > electron is trapped on a small radius, effectively shielding one proton > charge of the nucleus,.." > > Comment/question: Doesn't this finding open up the possibility for > extracting anomalous heat from Helium? > > There could be secondary advantages to using Helium over H - due to > inertness leading to ability to reuse the gas over and over ... > > Is there any indication of a catalyst for forming dense helium ?? > > > > I don't know, but I have begun to wonder if frigorific radiation could > play a role in forming such atoms. > Also, for atoms below the ground state, I propose the term depressed atom. > This would compliment the term excited atom for atoms above the ground > state. > > Harry > > -- > Jürg Wyttenbach > Bifangstr. 22 > 8910 Affoltern am Albis > > +41 44 760 14 18 > +41 79 246 36 06 > >
