Regretfully, I agree.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2023, 7:41 PM ROGER ANDERTON <r.j.ander...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

> Ukraine was not supposed to have nukes by earlier agreements with Russia,
> hence Ukraine wanted to join NATO to get access to nukes - and that was
> seen as breaking agreements with Russia hence one of the reasons for
> Putin's invasion - i.e deemed Russia was provoked. If Ukraine secretly has
> nukes then they broke agreement much earlier than recognised
>
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>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "bobcook39...@hotmail.com" <bobcook39...@hotmail.com>
> To: "vortex-l@eskimo.com" <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 Jan, 23 At 00:09
> Subject: RE: [Vo]:2023 -- An ominous New Year
>
> I AGREE WITH JONES; Ukraine sent drones deep into Russia to remind Putin
> that they are not the onley onrs with tactical nucs. MAD is alive ane still
> is working IMHO/
>
> I see a trues in the new YEAR WITH Ukraine 95 % WHOLE—MAYBE AN OLD ww2
> CRUSIER AS A CONSOLATION PRIZE FOR THE RUSSIAN NAVY.
>
> FRC
>
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> *From: *Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
> *Sent: *Saturday, December 31, 2022 5:39 PM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:2023 -- An ominous New Year
>
> Yes I remember seeing some of this years ago.
>
> We have to remember that Ukraine was just as corrupt as Russia in the
> recent past.
>
> The new twist is that the suitcase devices were actually constructed in
> Ukraine decades ago ... as were other nukes in the Soviet arsenal years
> ago. The Russian equivalent to Oak Ridge is actually n Ukraine.
>
> The problem now being this - are some of the missing devices in the hands
> of non-Zelenskyy Ukrainians or ex patriots who may have an agenda which is
> not aligned with NATO/USA ??
>
> This mystery may explain why Putin has not used a major asset
>
> Terry Blanton wrote:
>
> The missing suitcase nukes hidden in cities in the US is not a new story.
> I'm sure it was around in the 90s after the collapse of the SU. If NEST
> hasn't found them by now, well...
>
> Jones Beene wrote:
>
> Can this upcoming year, 2023, possibly be Happy for most of us ?
>
> Consider this: the situation in Ukraine has cast a dark shadow over
> everything. Basically, Russia cannot win, nor can they fully lose... so
> long as a nuclear option exists.
>
> Most military experts rule out that option, but they have overlooked one
> hidden possibility which is now emerging (from the all but forgotten Cold
> War) - and now we see this predicament turning up in the fringe news. See
> the video below on the 250 so-called "suitcase nukes" that we have lost
> track of...
>
> It is sad to think that part of our present predicament is related to
> control of energy resources, which is a situation that LENR would arguably
> have mollified or eliminated, if the technology had been adequately
> researched back in the early 1990s
>
> The Balance of Power, so to speak, would have been different in a world
> with adequate energy beyond fossil fuels... but of course that conclusion
> assumes many things...
>
> Speaking of related unproved assumptions which would change things in
> hidden ways... check out this video which turned up today. There are
> surprising ramifications given that a preexisting batch of small nukes may
> have already been planted.., maybe even in DC
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tS_7eZVt854
>
> If there are optimists out there on Volandia let me add:i
>
> -- Happy New Year !!!
>
>

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