https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/lithium-price-slide-deepens-china-battery-giant-bets-cheaper-inputs-2023-02-28/
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 2:57 PM Robin <mixent...@aussiebroadband.com.au> wrote: > In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 10 Mar 2023 09:01:14 -0500: > Hi, > > Given that the batteries are expensive due to scarcity of the materials > used, I think we would be better off actually > tearing the used batteries down and using the material to build new > batteries. > Scarce materials really shouldn't be used in stationary batteries. > Batteries using plentiful cheap materials should be used instead. These > are going to be bulkier, and probably heavier as > well, but that's really not important for stationary batteries. > E.g. Sodium ion batteries instead of Lithium ion. > > > >Here is an interesting variation on the idea of using EVs as distributed > >generators: > > > > > https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/storage/end-of-life-ev-battery-packs-find-a-new-use-as-stationary-storage/ > > > >End-of-life EV battery packs find a new use as stationary storage > > > > > >Second-life energy storage system Smartville said it deployed its first > >commercially available product, the MOAB energy storage system, at the > >University of California San Diego’s Library Annex. > > > > > >MOAB both integrates and controls repurposed electric vehicle battery > packs > >from different manufacturers in one unified system. . . . > > > > > >The company said that most batteries retired from electric vehicles retain > >70% of their storage capacity, making them candidates for stationary > >storage before being recycled. > Cloud storage:- > > Unsafe, Slow, Expensive > > ...pick any three. > >