--- Horace 

> > As I stated, and the video demonstrates, the
signal
can be disconnected now after startup, but not both
the ground and the signal.
 
> Nonsense!

Only with the connotation that this experiment defies
traditional understanding...then yes, it is "nonsense"
to the mainstream.
 

> > Certainly it is true that I am being optimistic in
the belief that there is no ground looping involved
 
> More than optimistic.

I am prone to that, but in this case, the only thing
which I see as optimism is that I trust Dr. Stiffler,
without ever having met the man in person. That does
not mean that you should trust him. But why would you
not give him the benefit of the doubt?

I believe that he is honest, and I have seen data that
you have not. He tried to open this up last week, and
did for several days - but as I said before his
web-site was twice taken down by DoS attacks. Hundreds
of people logged-on downloaded scope shots, circuits,
readings and other data. That you did not avail
yourself of that opportunity does not indicate that he
is trying to hide something.
 

>> that [high-current ground looping] is rare in my
experience -- but admittedly...

> This is all supposition. No actual power
measurements have been made. 

What? Bullshit. That is nothing less than arrogant
stupidity on your part!

> Have you read Bill Beaty's posts?

Of course.

>> Eventually - IF nothing else happens first - it
will be possible to focus the light from these LEDs
onto an efficient photocell, and thereby eliminate
ground.

> Eliminating ground is not the problem. Accurate
power measurement, or self running is the problem. 
That will require hooking up the photocells to an
oscillator to drive the system.

Why do you assume, with such a limited knowledge-base
of what is going one here, that the oscillation is not
lock-in ?
 
 
>> That is what will silence all possible doubt.
 
> I hope to see a self running system, but of course
don't expect to see it.  This looks like a lot of
wishful thinking.

Yes. It is wishful. Almost all of the efforts we make
here on Vo to advance the state of alternative energy
are wishful. Your efforts towards 'deflation fusion'
are totally wishful. Does that make it wrong ??

Jones 

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