On Oct 26, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Jones Beene wrote:
--- Horace
That could be indicative of a what one would
expect from ZPE coherence - which is a THERMAL LOSS
of one form of energy as ambient energy is converted
to another form(light) but at the same time the LoT
are being maintained.
I would think just the opposite were true. If ZPE
is tapped then the temperature should rise.
But that would violate the LoT.
No more than solar energy on a solar cell does.
There is plenty of
evidence that these laws are always valid.
I can't believe my ears! Jones Beene claiming the Laws of
Thermodynamics are always valid! 8^) The world is turned on its
head. 8^)
If temperature drops then this is a sign of
a Second Law of Thermodynamics violation.
Not under my interpretation of that which is that ZPE
in effect "props up" the thermal spectrum;
Where is the evidence for that?
ZPE is not carried by real photons. If ZPE consisted of real photons
then film would automatically expose at a phenomenal rate. Real
radiometers, the kind built to work in pure vacuum and spin toward
the dark side, would spin much faster, even in the dark. We could
travel through intergalactic space using ZPE photon sails that are
reflective on one side and absorbing on the other. Things just
don't work that way. ZPE flux goes through ordinary matter like it's
not there. Its effects are so subtle they are even difficult to
prove. The energy flux of the ZPF would have long ago been noticed
if it heated up ordinary matter by the amount you suggest, e.g. a
degree C.
I think the zero point field (ZPF) is comprised of virtual photons,
sometimes transforming upon interaction to virtual particles. Some
scientists even think the ZPF energy itself is virtual. See:
http://www.earthtech.org/publications/AIAA-2006-4909-871.pdf
From the above, according to John A. Wheeler, “…elementary particles
represent a percentage-wise almost
completely negligible change in the locally violent conditions that
characterize the vacuum.” Tht akind of activity would not go
unnoticed, nor would it associated mass. For sure, if ZPE were real
in the sense that E = m c^2, then the gravitational mass density of
ZPE would be astronomical and gravity could not work as it does. I
think that is strong evidence the ZPF is carried by virtual photons
and further, that virtual photons carry no mass charge. See:
http://mtaonline.net/~hheffner/FullGravimag.pdf
Virtual photons carry near field effects. The ZPF is not a field in
the ordinary sense though. It is a vibrational field, consisting of
virtual photons coming from every direction. Virtual photons of the
ZPF exert the Zitterbewegung, provide the energy behind the
uncertainty principle. In my opinion, ZPE only becomes real and
useful when the waveforms of particles are sufficiently confined.
The cubic distribution energy levels are only significant at very
short wavelengths, so only the tiniest things, like nuclei, can
couple to them to extract significant energy.
The effects of ZPE are normally unseen - i.e.
neutral.
Don't think so. What are you basing that on?
See above.
Removing ZPE, as caused in a thin gap, should not
drop temperature, should it?
Let's say that "ambient" is 300 K. Solar input and
heat from the earth provide most of that. However,
just as in "space" (not interstellar but
interplanetary) where the actual temp seldom drops
below ~150 K even in the "shade" then to me this could
indicate that the lowest or bottom level of earthly
"ambient" i.e. the bottom 100 degrees has a ZPE
origin.
This "bottom" props up the rest and when some is
removed, the system seems to cool.
The temperature of a mass is the result of the *balance* of the
energy flow into and out of the mass. Black body radiation,
convection, and conductive heat flux are all well understood and
fully balance in normal circumstances.
Further, virtual (and real for that matter) photons travel at the
speed of light. Any deficit would be quickly replaced in the
vicinity. Virtual photon flux is for all practical purposes
isotropic. If a diode were absorbing ZPE it would cast a spherical
ZPE shadow which would diminish as 1/r^2. At the core of the shadow
would be a flux deficit of the ZPE equal to the excess power
consumption of the diode, say a few mw/mm^2. Since matter couples so
poorly to the ZPE this tiny loss of ZPE flux would be undetectable in
the surroundings.
Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/
