--- Robin 

> One is forced to wonder where all the Oxygen
went.... my guess would be that it combined with the
Fe to form Fe2O3 (rust).

They state that the iron is a "catalyst" - not a
reactant. If true, a catalyst does not participate in
the reaction.

When Algae and bacteria use an iron or manganese
catalyst to metabolize CO2, the oxygen is released as
O2 but this requires solar photons of the correct
wavelength to operate on the band gap of the nascent
MnO in order to release the O from the catalyst
(over-simplification). In effect, the catalyst is
being rejuvenated.

Anyway, is there reason to believe that this can
happen only in "life" ? and that it is not relevant
otherwise? ... it is possible that the sodium plays a
significant role here, but it is not clear how.

Of equal interest geologically, in the large trona
beds where the soda is found and mined today, and
which were once brackish lakes, what happened to the
chlorine?

... that is, assuming that some of the sodium there
originally came from NaCl and there is almost no Cl
left in the soda when it is mined? Otherwise, are we
to assume that some inland lakes somehow do not
accumulate any NaCl at all? 

BTW - these beds of trona have been exposed to
unshaded solar irradiation for millions of years. If
there ever was a place where one could expect to find
evidence of "particles" from solar wind which have
accumulated over the eons, this is it.

I guess if this reaction (soda --> phenol) were to be
replicated, and IF it turned out that O2 were actually
being released, then ... 

... if an observer wanted to get real crazy (and if
that observer had an appreciation of the possibilities
of redundant ground state protium, it would be
possible to suggest that that the O2 is being released
due to the iron catalyst being "renewed" by the action
of that "mystery particle" ...

It would be interesting to know if there were any UV
emissions coming from the hydro-thermal refluxing,
wouldn't it?

Jones

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