Rick wrote
<<The position I take is based on my and others' interpretation of the
facts, and I'll stand on that. Lindzen is entitled to his opinion, as are
you to yours.>>
Your position would only be acceptable if the various "opinions" were of
equal weight. They are not. Lindzen's opinion counts a lot because he is the
just about the most serious climate sceptic and even he admits the things I
have listed. Some of the rest may have been scientists previously but they
are no longer speaking scientifically, they have mutated into pundits and
they use false logic, misleading half truths and out and out lies to sway
opinion.
You claim to have interpreted the "facts" but your postings reveal that you
are not looking at facts, you are looking at what the deniers tell you are
the facts - these people are lying to you - frequently, relentlessly,
blatantly. Their method is to keep on telling the "Big Lies" over and over,
changing them slightly, introducing new variations to keep things fresh, but
still non-stop lying. They keep on relaunching the same old propaganda
methods with plausible lies, massive omissions etc.The very best light that
can be put on what they say is that, due to the nature of the Internet, old
ideas and websites just keep on surfacing and people keep coming upon the
supposed facts without realising, OR BEING TOLD BY THE PROMULGATORS, that
these "facts" and theories have been shot to pieces a million times already,
sometimes as long ago as 15 years. The denier arguments are like Freddy
Kruger - you just can't seem to kill them permanently.
It comes down to this. You seem to have a BELIEF, that has little genuine
scientific credibility, massaged and encouraged by professional liars and
deceivers that we are not screwing up the climate. Then there are those who
have a BELIEF, backed up by the most credible scientific knowledge we have
that there is a very strong chance that we are indeed screwing up the
climate. If we weigh the various opinions, yours is of less worth because,
by looking at the consequences of the various beliefs, reckless or cautious,
we can easily ascertain what to do about greenhouse gases. You have no right
to risk everybody else futures with your over-confident view. I know you are
American, but Christ does your national ego know no limits?