If we keep on texting, we'll lose those opposable thumbs.  Big brains?
 Fat heads.  Some food for thought:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McsZ1U20W0M

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/science_policy_general/000318chris_landsea_leaves.html
http://snipurl.com/3nolp  [sciencepolicy_colorado_edu]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1363818.ece

http://personals.galaxyinternet.net/tunga/DefectiveGlobalWarming.pdf

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1998/triton.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/pluto.html

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

I think drastic measures will require more evidence.

Terry

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Rick Monteverde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Robin -
>
> Well and concisely put.
>
> I only take issue with #3 because of the assumptions that we should be
> trying to interfere with the situation, and that warming is necessarily a
> bad thing in the long run. Used to be a lot warmer, and for a very long
> time.
>
> I say let nature handle the climate. It's our job to adapt to it. So let's
> put our opposable thumbs and big brains to work on the right problems. That
> still leaves people like you for #6 in at least the same, if not an even
> better, position. Right?
>
> - Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:35 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Sunspotless
>
> In reply to  Rick Monteverde's message of Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:25:43 -1000:
> Hi,
> [snip]
>>The argument is whether
>>there are anthropogenic causes to it. I say that the models are
>>incapable of directing that conclusion because of their inherent
> shortcomings.
> [snip]
> I agree that the models are only models and will never get it 100% correct,
> however a few facts are obvious.
>
> 1) CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
> 2) The temperature is rising.
> 3) Reducing CO2 is the only means we have of influencing the situation
> (albeit that we don't know exactly how (in)effective that will be).
> 4) As a byproduct of switching from fossil fuels, we get less air pollution
> which is better for our health.
> 5) If we do it right, we make a net profit rather than a net loss.
> 6) If my ideas on fusion are correct, then that is going to be a very large
> profit.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
>

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