Oh yeah, George Michael, forgot him, 'fine example': http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7627636.stm
-----Original Message----- From: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 15:06 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Hidden Societal Megatrend? Yes the pressure of society to make people conform is a form of fascism. I advise techie youngster types to be very careful in their social dabbling because with silly laws it's now very easy for a young man to get accused of harassment (just for say, going to a canteen for lunch and *being there*) or worse if he takes a girl back to his place and she gets drunk (after the fact) and accuses him of 'acquaintance rape' just for being awkward and misreading the signs. Or if he mouths off anything political and makes enemies some weedy types will hatch a conspiracy with their word against yours. Just think of the disruption to his career whilst an investigation is carried out and he is suspended over some dippy attention seeking woman. And it's always the man's fault. I've seen this happen to colleagues. I guess that's why a lot of men don't like the troublesome Hillary Clinton types. Men of the future will be pathetic cowards, gagged, neutered, metro-sexual and inadequate. Then people will start saying, "What's happened, people used to be so effective, things used to get done around here. Where's the talent gone?" The answer: being sued or worse. So less Edison, Tesla, Newton, Faraday, Einstein more Russell Brand, Jonathon Ross, Elton John. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2008 14:32 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hidden Societal Megatrend? Remi Cornwall wrote: > > Let's have a game of listing people: My personal favorite genius: Isaac Newton -- Total nutjob. Suffered from severe obsessive compulsive disorder, which made a mess of his life -- he rarely went out, and was understandably not comfortable around other people due to his problems with, among other things, going through doorways. *** BUT NOTE *** OCD comes with an interesting side effect, which is the ability to "obsess" over just about anything ... in other words it provides one with the gift of amazing powers of concentration. I suspect very strongly that this had a lot to do with his ability to solve problems nobody else could, and it probably was one of the capabilities with aided him in constructing the calculus. Suppose Newton were alive today, in the first world (US, Canada, Europe). He would be diagnosed, he would be treated; he would probably be put on Prozac or one of its relatives. Based on what I know of treatment for OCD, he would *probably* be a much happier person. **BUT** his ability to sit and obsess about something for hours, days, or as long as it took to see his way through it would be destroyed. If we had had modern medicine in the time of Isaac Newton, he would probably never have developed the calculus, because he would have been "cured" of his mathematical ability along with his problems. Just my two cents....