this should be on B guys.
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 10:16 AM, OrionWorks<[email protected]> wrote:
> From Lawrence de Bivort:
>
>> Some 'substitutes' for racial bigotries come readily to
>> mind: anti-Muslim (from evangelical Christians and current
>> American society); anti-Semitism (eg from the Nazis);
>> anti-Palestinians (from Israelis). Perhaps anti-Liberals?
>
> I have a perfect example of anti-Mulsim hatred disguised as Christian
> piety, retrieved from a private group list that I somehow managed to
> get "included" in. (Don't ask me how this came about!) I actually
> received the following "true" letter twice approximately a year apart,
> so it would seem that my original objections were ignored - or
> overruled.
>
> What absolutely astonished me was the incredible amount of arrogance
> and "scripting" the original author displayed in how he characterized
> the behavior of "the Imam". In just a couple of sentences it is
> alleged that the Christian minister was capable of reducing the Imam's
> religious ideology to shreds. That's one for the Christians, and zero
> for the Muslims!
>
> For those curious I recommend browsing www.snopes.com, for a run down
> on similar internet rumors, including the source of this viral letter
> that continues to circulate through the internet like a virulent case
> of Swine-flu:
>
> See
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/allah.asp
>
>
> And now, for your entertainment, the so-called Christian letter of
> pious "enlightenment":
>
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>
> Allah or Jesus?
>
> Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
> maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training
> session there was a presentation by three speakers who represented the
> Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths who explained their
> belief systems. I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam
> had to say.
>
> The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam complete
> with a video. After the presentations time was provided for questions
> and answers. When it was my turn I directed my question to the Imam
> and asked: "Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that all
> of the Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy
> war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an
> infidel, which is a command to al Muslims, they are assured of a place
> in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an
> infidel?"
>
> There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation he
> replied, "non-believers!"
>
> I responded, "so, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers
> of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith
> so they can go to heaven. Is that correct?"
>
> The expression on his face changed from authority and command to that
> of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie
> jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
>
> I then said, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pop
> John Paul command all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Pat
> Robertson, or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order
> to go to heaven."
>
> The Imam was Speechless.
>
> I continue, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and
> your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask
> you a question ... would you rather have your Allah who tell[s] you to
> kill me in order to go to heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you
> because I am going to heaven and wants you to be with me"
>
> You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
>
> Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained me for 20 years
> of prison ministry. He said to me, "Rick, remember that the truth wil
> prevail."
>
> And it will!
>
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>
>
> Regards
> Steven Vincent Johnson
> www.OrionWorks.com
> www.zazzle.com/orionworks
>
>
