No - with palladium and deuterium - helium is expected and documented.
Tritium is also expected in another branch and is documented

Deuterium is very active for nuclear reactions as Farnsworth demonstrated
(in his Fusor) long before P&F. The Fusor is not cold fusion, but it shows
how easy it is to get nuclear reactions with less power going in than a TV
set.

Hydrogen and deuterium are extremely different in many ways. There is plenty
of reason why deuterium can be active for nuclear reactions and hydrogen not
active.

The two isotopes are 2:1 different in a.m.u - more than elements like carbon
and oxygen for instance, and hydrogen has no neutron. That is the main
thing.

Hydrogen cannot fuse into helium in one step. Period. Hydrogen cannot fuse
into tritium in one step. Period.

Without a neutron, hydrogen cannot be shield or screened, so the probability
of a nuclear interaction with anything else is extremely low. Deuterium is
much more likely.

And yes, I think that if you can find any cold fusion reaction with
deuterium, which is operating a 4 kilowatts of excess - then the V&B setup
would have shown gammas. There would be enough bremsstrahlung if nothing
else - for a strong signal at 4 kW.

In fact no cold fusion setup has come close to 4 kW, and that is why this
comparison is irrelevant.

Jones



-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell 

Jones Beene wrote:
> It was not as clear then, as now, that this Rossi
> reaction has NO radiation signature. It all goes back to the excellent V&B
> report - which in summary suggests that 10^17 nuclear reaction should have
> been detected over the long and energetic run, but in fact no nuclear
> reactions were detected.

Why is this any different from any other cold fusion reaction? The 
instruments V&B used would not detect any nuclear reactions from a Pd-D 
experiment, yet there are other indications that is a nuclear reaction.

Is your thesis that all cold fusion reactions are actually ZPE? Or are 
you suggesting Ni-H is but Pd-D is nuclear? Two radically different 
explanations for such similar phenomena seem one too many.

- Jed



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