Could you have a problem with the 30kWH of excess heat. It seems a bit much
to get rid of for space heating and hot water especially in a suburban
situation.

I was also looking a FIT rate in Australia and it seems you can get money
back from the power company. Could you do this for ecat power?

On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Aussie Guy E-Cat
<aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Based on the lowest LENR / kW price so far quoted ($7,700 (this the quoted
> retail installed price) / 45 kW thermal), the LCOE / kWh thermal is then
> $0.004 / kWh thermal. Assuming a 25% conversion efficiency, the cost is
> then $0.016 / Ac kWh  for 24/7/365 for 30 years of electricity plus you
> have 30 kWh of thermal heat to be use for space and water heating. What
> will that cost your for the petrol based generator running 24/7/365 for 30
> years? Then add in the cost of space and water heating. BTW we can source a
> good quality 7.5 kW single / 3 phase alternator (with voltage control) from
> China for around $300 and a good quality 10 HP steam engine (with RPM
> control) for around $250. We expect to be able to offer a LENR driven off
> grid CHP system for less than $8,000 with more than enough electrical, hot
> water and space heat output to run a large domestic home with only
> connections to the water and storm water sewage grid. Of course there are
> off the shelf systems to do those functions off the grid as well.
>
>
> On 12/6/2011 5:02 PM, David Roberson wrote:
>
>> I found a generator driven by a 4 cycle gasoline engine that puts out
>> 5500 watts of AC for $648 US dollars(Lowes USA).  This price includes
>> everything you need except the gasoline.  I understand that the LENR
>> powered devices that we are looking at do not require refueling except for
>> twice a year, but the cost of the bare unit gets my attention.  A 4 cycle
>> gas engine is pretty complicated and does the conversion of heat into
>> rotary motion as a steam engine would.  Why should we not expect the price
>> of a comparable LENR device to be more in line with this?  I understand
>> that they deserve a portion of the fuel savings, but why try to take so
>> much of the money?  Maybe the ECAT type price will be more comparable to
>> the generator I found when production numbers and competition kicks in.
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aussie Guy E-Cat <aussieguy.e...@gmail.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 5, 2011 11:30 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Domestic LENR steam/electricity front end
>>
>> I've emailed Robert Green and asked for more data and if what I get
>> looks good, I will buy one of the 2 cylinder 10 Hp unit to have a play.
>>  From what I can find this is my front runner steam engine to use as the
>> torque source for a domestic LENR CHP unit. With 24/7 LENR primary heat
>> source and CHP with electricity generation at around 5 - 6 Ac kWs, who
>> needs to worry about grid tie?
>>
>> On 12/6/2011 2:36 PM, ecat builder wrote:
>> >  Hi Aussie,
>> >
>> >  I posted that and a few other steam engines earlier that got a bunch
>> >  of thoughtful replies.
>> >
>> >  
>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/**vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53254.**html<http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg53254.html>
>> >
>> >  However, maybe a discussion of grid-tie in using existing solar/wind
>> >  systems would be interesting. Some of the new tie-in controllers tell
>> >  you how much carbon you're not using. (!?)
>> >
>> >  - Brad
>> >  p.s. Aussie, or any other Vortex person.. The Nelson slides mention
>> >  someone from Quantum Energy Technologies being at the Rossi demo... Do
>> >  you know if this company is one and the same?
>> >  http://www.quantumenergy.com.**au/ <http://www.quantumenergy.com.au/>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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