I'd like to solicit comments from the list re the Chan/Phen/Ortiz postings 
using MgH2 as H source 
http://www.ecatplanet.net/showthread.php?100-Chan-Method-of-Ni-H-fusion as it 
would pertain to QM theory, to thermonuclear processes, and to the noted 
'quiescence.'
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jones Beene 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 3:26 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:Rossi's Best Chance


  Mark,

   

  The first question that must be answered is: it the Ni-H phenomena Quantum 
Mechanical in nature, or is it Thermonuclear, on a reduced scale? 

   

  There are some that still believe Ni-H is thermonuclear and in fact, Pd-D 
could be. In fact W-L theory tries hard not to be forced into making that 
decision, and has QM features - but if the defining detail of that theory 
involves neutrons, neutron capture - and subsequent weak-force reactions, just 
as are seen in traditional physics - then it is a thermonuclear theory.

   

  Theories that involve tunneling of protons in one form or another are QM 
based - if no neutron is involved. QM is normally too low in probability to 
account for much heat. But one aftermath of the development of the modern CPU 
by Intel and others is that QM tunneling (of electrons) can be engineer and 
optimized to occur at very high rates. A CPU operating a 2 GHz will have 
electrons tunneling in predictable fashion the high terahertz range. The CPU is 
a QM electron tunneling device operating at high probability.

   

  The CPU is a good model to use for proton tunneling - where instead of a 
small chip needing to shed 30 watts of heat (and not gainful) you have much 
more heat, and importantly it is anomalous due to the tunneling. 

   

  If there is gain, then it must be defined.  Without going into great detail 
on defining the gain for now, except to say that it comes from the mass of the 
proton, and it comes without much radiation or transmutation (some of each, but 
way too little to account for the gain), then it is easier to account for the 
quiescence phenomenon. 

   

  Stated simply, quiescence involves "too much depletion" in the mass of the 
hydrogen so that the high level of probability of tunneling is reduced. This is 
where anything that relates to QM probability come in, and you have already 
found papers suggestive of a few of these factors.

   

  Rossi has designed a reactor where hydrogen is not circulated and it is 
likely that he could eliminate the problem with periodic dumping of H2 and 
reloading (every few hours) on a set schedule. There is evidence that DGT may 
be doing this already.

   

  Jones

   

   

  From: Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint 

   

  If quiescence is a reality, and *if* it will require a scientific/QM 
understanding, the I don't think any amount of 'control engineering' is going 
to be much help. one will need to find out the cause of the quiescence, which 
is a physics problem.

   

  If the quiescence is of a reasonable periodic nature (i.e., repeatable), or 
if it gives you adequate 'warning' that it has started, then one could have 2 
or 3 reactor cores inside, only one of which is 'running'.  When it begins to 
go into quiescence, one then starts up one of the 'idle' cores. while shutting 
down the quiescent one.  This is a brainless kind of solution, and wouldn't 
work if the quiescent core needs to be unassembled in order to make it 'ignite' 
again.  If reactive capability can be reinstated by shocking it with a hi-V 
pulse or cycling H2 pressure, things like that, then it could be automated and 
done while in-situ.  These are engineering problems, not scientific ones.

   

  -m

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