*So sorry, please excuse me, but the basic assumption that the radiation coming from the Ni-H reaction originates as a gamma photo may be invalid. Where does this assumption come from?*
* * *From *Piantelli:** * * *https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6id5Hf-xMWOYXVjekJCN1ZkQk0/edit?pli=1* * * *This experimental data from *Piantelli looks to me like the energy released from the Ni-H reaction originates as a 6MeV proton expelled from the nucleus of the transmuted atom. The gammas seen from the reaction originate as a result of a (p,n) secondary reaction when the energetic proton slams into a copper atom. Cheers: Axil On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:23 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote: > Your graphs clearly demonstrate the double balanced mix of a carrier > signal and a modulation signal. I have been working with radio design for > many years and this is a classical view. Even though the magnitude of the > total waveform goes to zero based upon the modulation frequency, the actual > signal consists of two individual sine waves. If you place a narrow band > filter centered on one of the components you will observe a steady sine > wave with a ripple on its magnitude proportional to the amount of leakage > afforded the filtered out signal. I understand your point that strange > things happen when non linear activity is present and I have seen some > amazing behavior. > > Thanks for pointing out that nickel is opaque to a band of frequencies > that begins at zero hertz and continues until x-rays are passed at > somewhere beyond 50 keV. I have always assumed that this is due to the > reflection of the energy by free electrons within the metal but have never > looked into the process in any detail. My concern at the moment is for the > high energy photons at the binding energy region, in this case near 8 MeV. > I worry that once released, these will be nearly impossible to attenuate. > I know of the W&L theory that their proposed heavy electrons will > accomplish the job, but there has never been any proof that this is true. > Also, how could this process influence virtually all of the gamma rays in > every direction unless the nickel is literally crawling with heavy > electrons? The extremely tiny wavelength of these high energy gammas would > not suggest to me that they impact many nearby electrons if any at all. > Couple this with the fact that no one has proven that the heavy electrons > exist and you can see why I am skeptical. > > I like the concept of an x-ray laser and expect that one day it might be > demonstrated. Someone might already know of such a device, and it would be > interesting for them to tell us of its nature. > > It is amazing that x-rays can exert such a large amount of pressure inside > the hydrogen weapon. I had always considered photon pressure as being > wimpish! I suppose that if I looked into the actual mass associated with > high energy x-rays that thought would quickly banish. > > Have you calculated the number of coherent x-rays at the 50 keV energy > level needed to impart upon a proton the coulomb barrier energy? According > to calculations that I have seen we need to obtain somewhere within the > ballpark of 5 MeV of energy to breech that barrier. This appears like an > interesting path to explore. I like the concept of x-rays trapped within a > slot cavity. In radio terms I wonder what Q is associated with this > process? This is another way of asking for information about the rate at > which energy escapes your trap. > > Are you visualizing a system where a number of trapped x-rays continue to > apply pressure against a proton also trapped within the slot thereby > forcing it into the hands of a nearby nickel nucleus? This might actually > apply ramped up pressure as more x-rays become trapped with time. I suspect > that the vort members that have a strong background in chemistry would > consider it unlikely that the crystal structure could withstand this > magnitude of pressure. It is not my call. > > Eric, in my estimation there are no crazy ideas as I am the perpetrator of > a significant number that might be placed within that category. You are > exhibiting an open mind which will lead into many different directions of > study. Keep your interesting ideas flowing. > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> > To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > Sent: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 3:37 am > Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: Dave’s Demon and > Radiation Free LENR > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:16 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>wrote: > > I still do not have a mental picture of how the photoelectric effect >> works where a light photon that is many times larger than a single electron >> nevertheless only results in the emission of one electron from a metal >> surface. I need to find one of those quantum mechanics wands to wave over >> any problem to find a solution. My mind still thinks in a classical sense >> most of the time. >> > > The other things you mentioned were interesting. But for the moment > I'll address this point. > > Descending from higher to lower frequencies, nickel becomes effectively > opaque to high-energy electromagnetic radiation at around 50 keV. Once > nickel becomes opaque, one can imagine the normal scattering going on in an > elongated, nano-scale cavity. I'm thinking of Compton scattering, > stimulated emission, the photoelectric effect, and so on. But there's also > the possibility of coherent x-ray scattering -- e.g., perhaps a mini x-ray > laser or "super radiance," a precursor. X-rays are what are used in atomic > bombs to exert pressure on fusion fuel, so their credentials for creating > pressure are good. All that is needed in this case is a minimum of > pressure to bring the likelihood of fusion into a realistic, but not large, > range. I'm thinking of something like popcorn in a microwave. > > Above 50 keV, it is possible that nonlinear effects within the cavity > can still yield coherent scattering, even though nickel becomes more and > more transparent. An example of the kind of thing that can happen is that > x-rays can bounce around for high values of Q if the grazing incidence is > slight, and the coherence of the scattering can be improved if there are > atoms within the cavity. There are some interesting slides that were > included in an earlier email that go into more detail. Unknown (i.e., > miraculous) quantum effects may make the nickel cavity even more opaque > even to photons above 50 keV. > > But let's assume that we have to get from 8 MeV to 50 keV in a hurry. > That's a decrease of 160-fold. I have no idea how to do this > realistically. But that's not a huge range in the big scheme of things, > especially when you consider that nano-scale electronic components can > generate radio frequencies. One of the nonlinear optical effects is > heterodyning. You can combine a lower frequency carrier signal with a > higher frequency beat signal and get some interesting effects. Here are > two graphs, before and after heterodyning of the carrier signal (x-rays) > with the beat signal (a gamma; hopefully I'm doing the calculation > correctly): > > - Before: http://bit.ly/LCMs7E > - After: http://bit.ly/N5ybMy > > You may need Google Chrome to see the graphs -- I'm not sure. The second > signal still has a lot of stuff going on, but it's also got some much more > macro-scale features now as well. Perhaps it is now able to interact with > the environment of the cavity. Other nonlinear effects may take over from > here, such as Raman amplification, where the "signal" photon, in the x-ray > range in this case, is amplified by another signal photon in the same range > produced by a nonlinear interaction with the "pump" photon, in this > instance the gamma. > > All of this is obviously highly speculative. But it does not seem to be > completely crazy. > > Eric > >
