1st Idea of a Risen Ape?:  Has anybody ever noticed that nearly instantly the 
moment that the 'species' aka 'us' gets the notionthat we might be able to 
build the technology to leave the planet;  THAT THE VERY NEXT notion is to 
formulate incipient plans to TERRA FORM other planets? INSTANT TERRA-FORMERS: 
Not exactly a 'gradual' progressional-'evolutionary' AMBITION. INSTANT 
COLLONIZERS:  I've not heard of any recent observations of CHIMPANZEE's 
striking out to form distant colonies? Hmmm;  the notion that SOME OTHER 
TERRAFORMERS may have 'loaned' us the 'genetics' of themselves or some other 
TERRA FORMING FOLKS becomes more compelling by the moment. . . Why is it 
SPONTANEOUSLY INGRAINED within  Homo-Sap that WHILE we are still 
PETRI-DISH-TRAPPED  upon the 'sphere' that we perforce MUST EXTERMINATE 
eachother so as NOT to DESTROY OUR HABITAT for all future generations? eg. . . 
"THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL" necessary gambit. . . .  Planetarily speaking 
Homo-Sap 'knew' the necessity for 'self-culling' WELL BEFORE WE WERE EVER NEAR 
OVERPOPULATING THE PETRI DISH. . . . We 'knew' this LONG BEFORE any 
EVOLUTIONARY PROCESS had a chance to 'teach' this to our genetic code. . . I am 
NOT a NAZI. . . so hows about LET'S ALL GET OFF OF THE PLANET AS SOON AS 
POSSIBLE to MAXIMIZE GENETIC DIVERSITY & HYBRID VIGOR instead of CONTINUING 
WITH FURTHER REITERATION OF OUR DARK HISTORY! Laziness is DEADLY CRIMINAL 
NEGLIGENCE. . .  and NATIONAL SOCIALISM IS CURRENTLY ENJOYING A HUGE REBIRTH in 
the MIDDLE & UPPER ESCHELONS of both RUSSIAN & GERMAN SOCIETY & GOVERNMENT. . . 
 Hello,  test. . . test. . . "Soylent Green is People."
 From: jth...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 05:17:59 +0800
Subject: [Vo]:The Fallacies of Darwinian Evolution (Was::Koch founded climate 
skeptic changes sides)








Jed, I have.  The more I do, the more I 
realize Darwinian Evolution is a lie and a fraud.
 
You see, over the years many "neo" Darwinists have 
been coming up with explanations to plug the leaky holes of Darwin's original 
theory.  Neo Darwininism is now a hodgepodge conglomeration of increasingly 
dubious ideas.  Take Stephen J. Gould's idea of "Punctuated Evolution", 
that hypothesizes that evolution occurs in spurts.  Punctuated Evolution 
was devised to explain why after over a century of intense fossil digging, we 
still have not found any of the supposedly "transition species".?  So 
he came up with this nonsense to explain why transition species can not be 
found.  So, he think he has plugged one hole, not realizing that he has 
opened up another bigger hole.  Like, how do  you explain "rapid" 
evolution without a cause.  If evolution occurs in spurts, it is rapid and 
therefore does not fit Darwin's original idea that evolution is due to slow 
mutation and natural selection (survival of the fittest).  Using this 
criteria, Gouild's Punctuated Evolution is no longer Darwinian Evolution.  
Both ideas presupposes a different mechanism that drive changes.  What that 
mechanism is, Gould conveniently "does not know".
 
Did you know that the entire narrative of man's 
supposed descent from ape-like creatures, to Lucy down to Homo Sapiens 
is stitched together by bones that would fit the bed of a small pickup 
truck.  How can one be so biased as to claim that a truck full of 
bones is sufficient "fact" to claim the descent of man as a 
tautology.
 
And there are a host of other ideas just a 
ridiculous and dubious as the above.
 
So, as a matter of fact Jed, I know and have 
studied Darwinian Evolution.  I am not the close-minded, propaganda-victim, 
blind faith individual you would like to believe.  So, Jed, how many 
papers in Intelligent Design have you read and studied.  Have you read 
Stephen Meyer's paper on Specified Complexity?.  Have you read 
Microbiologist Micheal Behe's paper on Irreducible Complexity and the Bacterial 
Flagellum?  Have you read Tipler's "The physics of Immortality"?  
(Jed, I said read the original paper, not the "For dummies" version you find in 
the web.) LOL....
 
Of course NOT.... cause reading these papers 
would give the field of Intelligent Design legitimacy, right?  You will not 
engage in a debate with me on the fallacies of Darwinian Evolution because that 
would give me legitimacy, right?  And of course, you won't debate a 
close-minded, propaganda-victim, blind faith individual because that is beyond 
your superior intellect and understanding, right?   The same blinded belief why 
Bob Parks would not debate with 
you regarding Cold Fusion.
 
OK, Whatever, at least we know who the close-minded 
individual here is.
 
 
Jed,  If you are so inclined, I can go into 
detail on the numerous significant problems of Darwinian and Neo-Darwinian 
Evolution  theories like:
 
1. Irreducible Complexity
2. Specified Complexity
3. DNA Information
4. Biological Chirality
5. Abiogenesis
6. Impropability
7. Anthropic Principle
8. Lack of Fossil Record
9. Cell Structure
10. Fossil Graves
11. OOPS - Out-of-Place stuff
 
 
These are just a sampling of the numerous holes of 
Neo-Darwinianism. Each Mack-truck hole is a significant problem for the 
theory in itself that any fair and open-minded person would gasp in amazemnet 
at 
the Darwinian Evolution lie that has been foisted on them.
 
But, of course, you have superior understanding, so 
you won't even bother strudying these issues.  Why, all the "experts" agree 
that Darwinian Evolution is correct, so no need to debate me, 
right?
 
LOL ...
 
 
 
Jojo
 
 
PS.  By the Way, Since Rule 2 is just a 
guideline, and "We make the rules as we go", and since this is a "scientific 
discussion", my posting of Darwinian Evolution is proper for this forum, 
right?  And since, I can't persuade you to moderate your hijacking of this 
forum, might as well correct your misinformation and propaganda at every 
step.  
 
Let's see how many people here are as objective as 
they would like to believe.  $100 bucks says I will now receive a barage of 
criticism that my posting on Darwinian Evolution is inappropriate, and no doubt 
from our "esteemed" colleage Dr. Peter Gluck.  And of course, I can just go 
"F*** my self", right?  Another $100 bucks says I will now be banned from 
this forum.  And if that is so, so be it.  That's the price I am 
willing to pay for standing up to what is right.  And what am I standing 
for? Simply that people do not hijack Vortex-L with off-topic posts as clearly 
specified in our existing rules.  Simply that we as a community try to 
preserve the relevance and value of Vortex-L by discussing only issues that are 
important.  Dead Everest Bodies and Wisconsin Politics are clearly 
off-topic, and so is AGW propaganda.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Jed 
  Rothwell 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 12:03 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate 
  skeptic changes sides
  

  So Jed, you are so convinced about the 
  truth of Darwinian Evolution.  Answer my question.  Have you read 
  Darwin's "The origin of Species" and "The Descent of Man". . . . 
  
  

  You know, there has been other research in this field since 1859. Several 
  other biologists * have made observations that support the theory, and they 
  have modified and expanded it. Perhaps you should look at some of the later 
  work, rather than judging it by the first paper alone. many people who 
  criticize cold fusion look only at the first paper by Fleischmann and Pons, 
  which is admittedly not convincing. I think it is better to look at the 
  totality of evidence.
  

  - Jed
  

  

  * When I say "several" biologists in this instance, I mean all of 
  them.
  
                                          

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