Axil,

I believe you are correct.  My understanding is that there are two coils in
each cylinder, one for compression and one for containment.  I believe the
compression coil is located exactly around the focal point of the spark
plug electrodes so that it concentrates ions at the focal point for
blasting with 160 kV per cycle from the four plugs.  That blast, along with
the ionization charge already carried by the ions as well as kinetic energy
of the ions due to their speed as well as the hoop pressure and excitement
of the compression coil containment, etc.  seems to be enough to initiate
the birth of gremlins and collapse the ions.  I guess if you add all of
these charges up and multiple by the number of ions in that focal point and
you might get to the magic 1 TeV +/- predicted at the CERN LHC.


On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> John Rohner uses magnetic confinement to keep the noble gas located
> axially at the center of the cylinder. This might keep the gases away from
> the edge of the piston.
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> What this might mean is that the gas is well contained while the engine is
> running. The coil provides a cylinder within the cylinder.  But while the
> engine is off, the gas may find a path around the rings and may need a
> recharge.
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> This means that the engine must run continually. Rohner does not seem to
> be much concerned about the rings. He said he will replace the two ring
> system with a single ring in the final product.
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> Cheers:   Axil
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> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Michael Foster <mf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> I really want to believe these guys are for real in their revival of the
>> Papp engine. If it works, it's
>> certainly more compelling than getting heat from LENR.  One thing bothers
>> me in watching the
>> video of the engine assembly. The piston rings are rubber O-rings.
>> There's no way in hell that
>> the helium in the noble gas mixture will stay in the cylinder for an
>> appreciable length of time.
>> Helium is notoriously fugitive and will escape from virtuall any
>> container not made of solid glass
>> or metal. O-rings just aren't going to work in their engine unless the
>> noble gas mixture can be
>> replenished frequently.
>> -----------------------------q
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 3:18 AM PDT Chemical Engineer wrote:
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>> >At 2:30 of this video they mention aligning the holes shown machined on
>> the
>> >outside of each cylinder to the top for access to the coils for wiring,
>> >etc.  I believe they mount  a circuit board for each cylinder atop/near
>> >each hole to  access the coils to supply control power.
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>> >They do not show the coils inside and i am not sure how they seal it all
>> >up.  Another video shows the compression coil directly around the target
>> >spot of the plugs.  A containment coil is supposedly around the rest of
>> the
>> >piston.
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>> >> ProdEngAssemble.avi<
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqFgM8osjLE&feature=youtube_gdata_player>
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>> >> Sent from my iPad
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