I finally obtained a safe alternative that is working at the moment.  I am 
getting sparks and all.  Thanks for the idea.


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 16, 2012 5:28 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:New Experiment Started


would two jars connented by a wire work?
 
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Cheers:    Axil


On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Alan J Fletcher <a...@well.com> wrote:


At 11:30 AM 10/16/2012, David Roberson wrote:

I knowthat I will have sparks and small flames as with the open system so now 
Iwould like to know if there is significant danger of explosion.  Isanyone 
aware of reports of a relatively low volume open to the air glasscell exploding 
and causing injury or damage to the surroundings? Most of the jar volume will 
likely be filled with a mix of  hydrogenand oxygen plus room air.  I have not 
calculated the amount ofenergy contained within the captured hydrogen since a 
bad calculationcould be dangerous.  Please give me guidance before I reconnect 
thisbeast as it now is on standby.


This paper looks at various combinations
http://conference.ing.unipi.it/ichs2005/Papers/120001.pdf

H2-Air  -- lower explosion limit is 4.3 mole% H2
H2-O -- lower explosion limit is 4 mole% H2

Can you put in a baffle or something to keep the H and O separate? 
Maybe a U-tube would be better than a jar.





 

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