The following brief exchange was extracted from a recent post, subject thread: "[Vo]:Digital information storage in DNA"
Jojo Jaro wrote: >>Your [Lomax's] opinion has certainly been noted by Bill. Quite obviously, >> I'm still here cause Bill saw nothing that I have done to deserve banning. Lomax Responded: > Well, we don't know that. Bill sometimes pays little or no attention > to this list for a time. I would expect Bill to comment either way, > if he makes a decision. * * * * * * * * It would appear that Mr. Jaro has no intention of changing his intentions. In fact, it would appear that Mr. Jaro feels justified in continuing his intentions. Most, wisely ignore him, or filter out his posts, as I have done. Nevertheless, Mr. Jaro's vitriol continues to leak through the posts of others. Mr. Beaty has not responded to my private inquiries on the matter either. In the past Bill has always responded to personal inquiries - eventually. Bill can be quite an interesting fellow to engage in private conversation with! In my own private exchanges I noticed that Bill never shied away from expressing personal opinions that might differ from my own. I always respected Bill for being up front. Therefore, Bill's continued absence would suggest a few things to me personally, such as: It would appear that Mr. Beaty has not shown much active interest in the day-to-day routine maintenance of the Vortex-L list - perhaps for several months now. Meanwhile, Mr. Jaro seems to be interpreting Mr. Beaty's absence as a passive form of approval of his posting actions. I think it would be foolish for Mr. Jaro to assume he has interpreted Mr. Beaty's apparent passivity accurately. Mr. Jaro might want to consider why hasn't Mr. Beaty banned Mr. Lomax for his excessively lengthy rebuttals that Mr. Jaro claims are full of lies, or for that manner, why not me since Mr. Jaro has labeled me a troll. Mr. Jaro had suggested that I be banned after I had posted an obviously deliberately crafted satirical commentary that implied that the name, "Jojo" belonged to that of a "black dog". Jojo has also called me a "retard" - so what additional "ruling" does one need in order to be banned from Vortex-l! But here we both are! Mr. Lomax - who continues to exhibit considerable knowledgeable on the subjects of Islam, Christianity, and Buddhism (besides science!), and me, a new age theoretician at heart, the "retard". In my experience, Mr. Beaty has banned plenty of other trolls whose posting behavior had been less acerbic than Mr. Jaro's incessant pot shots. For example, a couple of recently banned trolls include: "LORENHEYER" of aol.com, and "Mary Yugo". IMO, neither of these two posters had ever come close to the vitriol of Mr. Jaro's subject material. (Meanwhile, "Mary Yugo" continues to play in other playgrounds. And, in LORENHEYER's case, he seems content to post personal essays out on Vortex-b, much to Grok's, occasional annoyance.) As for Mr. Beaty's continued absence, perhaps the following statement might help explain his apparent in-action: **************************************************************************** ******************* http://amasci.com/amateur/amformG.html#urls SCIENCE HOBBYIST: SUGGEST AN URL, OR LEAVE A COMMENT ATTENTION! : I CAN'T ANSWER! I'm currently swamped by email, my backlog is over 8 weeks and growing! If you have science questions, try the experts listed here. To send me a quick note, use the GUESTBOOK. I'll receive it as an email message, and others will be able to see (and answer?) any questions you've entered in the book. To send me a private email message, use the form below. For SCIENCE FAIR PROJECTS, try Ideas Archive WANT TO HELP US WITH A DONATION? SEE ABOVE **************************************************************************** ******************* I did attempt to contact Mr. Beaty from this link, unsuccessfully I might add. So, there you have it. The evidence would seem to suggest that these days Mr. Beaty's interests lie elsewhere. Clearly, Mr. Beaty is a busy man with many activities that demand much of his attention. I certainly don't fault him for that! ;-) When Mr. Beaty has taken notice of a string of Vortex-l complaints it often seems to take the form of suddenly swooping in and banning the poster, along with a terse explanation as to why he did so. And then, just as suddenly as he swooped in... he's gone. Who was that masked man! As previously mentioned, Mr Beaty has a lot of interests besides moderating Vortex-l. Here are just a few other subjects: http://amasci.com/billb.html Under the circumstances it might be time to consider moving, or perhaps adding additional moderators. (THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION BTW, NOT A DEMAND!) To expand on those suggestions: * Mr. Beaty might want to consider appointing one or two additional Vortex-l Moderators who can take turns playing a more active role in monitoring day-to-day affairs. * We might want to transfer active discussion over to another location such as one similar to YAHOO's "Vortex-l backup" group, located at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/vortex-l-backup/ Unfortunately, the term "backup" implies that the location is nothing more than a backup site. It's not used very much for obvious reasons. IMO, a replacement group should be renamed something more proactive, for example "Vortex-l TNG" (The Next Generation). There should also be a an automatic rerouting procedure set in place so that anyone who attempts to post something to the old Vortex-l group be automatically informed of the fact that the "Collective" has moved to a new location, and how to subscribe to it. Several respected moderators should be approved to help distribute the monitoring work-load. Who might those moderators be? good guess. Perhaps Mr. Blanton could stand in as one of the moderators, since Terry already has extensive prior experience moderating large groups! ... but that's just my opinion. Incidentally, if Mr. Beaty would like to be one of the moderators, I'd certainly suggest he be included. I would suggest there should always be an uneven number of moderators, perhaps a total of three - in order to break tie votes over certain controversial matters, such as whether some poster should be banned or not. I would be saddened if Vortex-l were to eventually (collectively) decide it would be best to pack up its bags and move. There is a HUGE archive of historical Vortex-l posts that go back as far as 1995. That's a lot of data to lose... unless there might be a way to migrate all of those archived Vortex-l zip files over to a more appropriately named YAHOO group. Ok, I've send enuf. I'm sure others might like to offer a few suggestions of their own as well. By all means... Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
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