At 04:28 AM 1/2/2013, Jojo Jaro wrote:
Chuck, if you believe that Obama is a Natural-Born US citizen, then why not just open up access to a innocuous piece of document. Why not show all brithers the vault BC. It's simple my friend. It will end the controversy.

It's been shown to anyone who wants to see it, in the only legal way possible. By making copies available. What Jojo demands, with other birthers who have remained True to the Cause, is legally *impossible.* It would require removing an archive document from the archive. Not just one document, the entire book.

Instead of doing that, you resort to accusations about treason because I will not swallow the bambi propaganda.

Since Jojo goes into "Bambi," I'll go into "Idiot!" Jojo claimed to want to end the cycle of insults. If that were true, it would be his obligation to end his own insulting, and "Bambi" is an insult, in context.

You know, that's what they did in Naxi Germany. Anyone who would not swallow the propaganda was a traitor.

The comment was unfortunate. However, there have been military personnel who, taken in by birther claims, refused lawful orders and who were court-martialed for that. That's military justice and only applies to those under a legal obligation to obey the President. That is an example of real damage done by birther claims.

"Naxi" -- Nazi -- is totally irrelevant. One is free, in the U.S., to be a total idiot. It's not a crime, in itself. It may, sometimes, lead to criminal activity, that's another issue. "Treason" requires more than Bad Thinking.

I am loyal to my country, my Constitution. I have sworn an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC.

When did you do this, Jojo? I'm a natural-born citizen, I've never taken that oath. We know that you reside in the Philippines. Where were you born? Why do you call the U.S. "my country"? You don't live here, and, I assume, you don't pay taxes here.

The illuminati and their puppet bambi, are DOMESTIC enemies of our Constitution. They treat that sacred law as a piece of toilet paper but continuing to ignore its clear specific requirement. The POTUS MUST be a natural-born US citizen.

And all evidence points to the fact that he is. The birther claims have been totally trashed, and what is left is mere suspicion and innuendo. Few reputable birthers are left, it's only nuts and fruitcakes still beating the drum.

In a few days, it is *totally over* as a legal issue. After the U.S. Congress certifies the election, even if it developed that Obama was actually smuggled into Hawaii as a baby, and had no right of citizenship by birth (there are details to be addressed there), it's *over.* The legal doctrine is *res judicata.* I somewhat doubt that Jojo understands the term, but he could resolve that doubt.

At that point, to raise a successful challenge would require a showing that Obama committed a crime. Not merely a technical violation of a regulation, even if it is a constitutional one. The *only* institution with the power to consider such a claim is Congress, through impeachment, once the President is accepted by certification of the election. It's end-game time.

A claim that "no one" reads Jojo's posts was naive polemic. So what?

No more original text below.




Jojo


PS. I see you have employed a tactic that many have employed. Instead of saying "natural-born" US citizen, you say "Native born citizen". There is no such thing as a Native Born citizen. That is not a legal classification. The proper classification is a Natural-Born US citizen. I believe you do this intentionally to add confusion to the issue.

NO one reads my posts. Really? LOL..... Do you want me to tell you how many private emails I get about my posts? Do you want me to tell you how many offline discussions I am having with some vortex members?






----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:cbsit...@gmail.com>Chuck Sites
To: <mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Birther Myth? or Lomax lies

I'm sorry to break from scientific debates on Cold Fusion, but to be honest, JoJo has dominated this mailing list for several weeks now with very little response and light response from the Vortex-L mail list. If I may, I would like to suspend the rules and use 4 letter words If that is OK with you all, good old JoJo will get an insult so low, his shins might hurt from all of the fish bites.

so Jojol You know, all I can say is your beliefs are treasonous. You say "Obama is unqualified to be POTUS on many fronts." President Obama is certainly qualified to be POTUS on all levels. In fact he has been one of the best POTUS's since Clinton. You might as well say, "I hate the USA". You obviously a birther, since you seem to believe the notion that Obama is not a native born citizen. That is just goofy thinking. Only a dingbat righty would take that as fact.

You have been attacking Lomax for his religion. Why don't you tell us right here and right now what your religion is if you have one. We can then pick on every odd thing that your religion believes. Based on everything you have said, it probably involves eating little babies (sarcasm).

Bottom line Jojo, is no one on this email lists likes your posts or even reads them. You message is irrelevant and always Off Topic! Go away an hassle some body on huffington post,



On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Jojo Jaro <<mailto:jth...@hotmail.com>jth...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Obama is unqualified to be POTUS on many fronts.


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