Mark, would you be willing to act as an impartial moderator of this forum.  I 
have found your objectivity and integrity to be acceptable and I'm sure others 
do so as well.

Can we all agree to abide by Mark's ruling if he accepts the position?

You would have to moderate all posts including all off-topic posts, that in 
your judgement is excessive and clearly off-topic.  



Jojo



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MarkI-ZeroPoint 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 2:41 PM
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls.


  I too, as one who has been on and off of Vortex over ten years, and 
consistently for the last 4 years, tire of this ridiculous banter between JoJo 
and Abd. Both of you have lost sight of the main purpose of this forum, and I 
will be emailing Bill Beaty to ban BOTH of you for a short time.  GROW UP!

   

  I've also noticed that most of the ol' timers have refrained from getting 
involved because they know how useless these kinds of discussions are.  NONE of 
either JJ's or Abd's postings have changed my views one way or the other, and I 
seriously doubt if it has changed anyone else's either in any significant way.  
this has got to be the worst use of this forum that I have ever seen, and BOTH 
are responsible; and a few others that just can't help but make snide remarks 
or try to psychoanalyze someone else. which is a major sign of immaturity and 
lack of self-awareness.  I learned that lesson over 20 years ago... 
intelligence does not guarantee self-awareness.

   

  -Mark Iverson


   

  From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 10:17 PM
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls.

   

  Abd, is it possible for you to discuss these issues with him in private?  I 
find the titles of the threads offensive and to keep seeing them over and over 
is beginning to wear on me. 

   

  I have a hard time believing that you must personally defend Islam to this 
extent and did it occur to you that you are feeding fuel to the fire over and 
over again?

   

  I miss the good discussions that once were common on this site and it would 
not surprise me to see many leave if this continues at the present rate.  Why 
not just let the insults pass and eventually they must end.

   

  At times such as this I look back fondly to the posts of Mary and Crude, at 
least they were related to the main subject and generally not directly 
offensive. 

   

  This is at least the second time I have begged for a little civility on this 
list.

   

   

   

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com>
  To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>; vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
  Sent: Wed, Jan 2, 2013 11:25 pm
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: The Truth about islam and little girls.

Stewart and Rothwell don't realize the implications of leaving seriously 
offensive posts in the Vortex archive, without response. I am responding to 
only a few of Jojo's posts, he's been flooding the list. After promising to 
stop, he posted 20 times here yesterday, and 28 times today, carrying on quite 
as before. I responded seven times yesterday and seven today. (Direct responses 
to Jojo). My responses will naturally become rarer and shorter. Responding on 
VortexB-l is *useless.* The VortexB archive on Beatty's web site is 
*inaccessible.* I'm not engaged in a conversation with Jojo Jaro. That ended 
long ago. I'm in a conversation with *others*, most of whom are not now 
present. I would not bring this conversation here, it was brought here, 
insistently, and it's maintained here because, I assume, of the absence of 
Bill. If you really want to do something about that, contact him. I've tried 
and so have others apparently. So far, no response. I'm worried about him. At 
08:52 PM 1/2/2013, ChemE Stewart wrote:>I agree 100%> >On Wednesday, January 2, 
2013, Jed Rothwell wrote:>Abd ul-Rahman Lomax <a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote:> 
>Please remove this discussion to VortexB-L.> > >I doubt that will happen. 
VortexB-l does not appear to be >googleable. So from Jojo's point of view, it 
could be useless.> > >I have already filtered out Jojo. So why don't YOU take 
this >discussion to VortexB-L. Respond to him there, if you must. Or I >will 
filter out you, too.> >Enough is enough.> >- Jed 

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