On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:
> > On Feb 10, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > > > > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> >> >> Storms: NO!!! That is not the issue Cold fusion produces He4 without >> radiation. >> > KevinO:***There have been some observances of radiation. Not very much, > but some. > > > Storms:Yes, I know but that is not the point. > ***Then why did you make the point? Your claim was "Cold fusion produces > He4 without radiation." My analogy fits the observance well, in terms of a > little bit of emitted energy (balloon pops) getting out of the lattice -- > not very much but some. There is some radiation, but most of it gets > absorbed by the lattice. What point are you trying to make? > > > I think you can make a better analogy by comparing exploding and burning. > > ***My analogy was aimed at showing that it's fusion that's taking place, whether hot or cold, and that claiming there is "no" radiation didn't fit the facts. You even say "yes I know but that is not the point". > Hot fusion is an explosion of the nucleus as a result of pet up nuclear > energy. Cold fusion is a burning reaction that allows the energy to leak > out slowly even though the same reaction products are produced. Both can > occur in a lattice, but cold fusion REQUIRES the lattice while hot fusion > does not. > ***Your analogy does not make sense. To say that cold fusion is a burning > reaction while hot fusion isn't would require us to fill the balloons with > 2 different flammable gasses. But any balloons in a lattice would burn/pop > when placed next to another burning balloon, suggesting a self-sustained > nuclear chain reaction such as fission. That isn't what takes place in > cold fusion cells. > > > Both hot and cold fusions are a result of pent up nuclear energy. Both > are explosions. But they are on completely different scales. That's why I > said there's only one balloon pop in cold fusion and 50,000 balloon pops in > hot fusion. There's no corresponding 50,000 balloon pop in cold fusion -- > I'm not aware of any LENR/Cold fusion cell that has undergone a HUGE > nuclear reaction resulting in lethal levels of gamma rays, neutrons, or > whatever radiation. I doubt that it can happen. To say that cold fusion > requires the lattice while hot fusion does not is ignoring the analogical > fact that 50,000 balloons are being popped at once in the hot fusion > balloon example -- there's no way to do that in a lattice as far as I can > see. And if there was a way, there would be the corresponding lethal > levels of radiation. And conversely, there's no way to get just one > balloon to pop in the hot-fusion example. > >