I agree, but as has been noted many times before, Nature always tests
all possibilities until the one that works is found. Presumably, our
universe is here because it worked. We humans are here because we
survived the tests used by Nature to determine what works.
Presumably, many life-forms having greater awareness exist throughout
the universe. Any life-form that fails the test is eliminated, both
on a personal level as well as on a planet-sized level without any
consideration by a "Creator". That's my opinion.
On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:
The laws of physics derive from a slight alteration of the perfect
symmetry of nothing. Symmetry is the most fundamental principle of
natural law. No much space for patchwork universe there.
Giovanni
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Edmund Storms
<stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
I have always been interested in how people describe a "Creator".
Are you claiming that the universe resulted from some super
intelligent life-form getting the idea that a new universe would be
an interesting project and then set about creating it? Or is the
idea of a creator an abstract simplification of a process that would
have occurred regardless of any intent? Too often the idea is
applied to mankind as a reason why we are so special. Or at a more
childish level, that God is here to answer our requests for personal
protection or to help win sporting events. At which level are you
describing the "Creator" and what use is the concept to anyone?
Ed
On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Zell wrote:
Dawkins is an example of 'atheist theology' (oxymoron). He seems
to desire a neat, ordered, understandable world without any Creator
behind it. He extends traditional moral concerns to general
society, as if they still had a Divine authority behind them. Why
is objective truth important? Why aren't some lies better?
I prefer to think that the lack of a Creator suggests that we
should expect a sort of patchwork universe, full of paradoxes and
anomalies - such as Feyerabend suggested. It would make a lot more
sense - and might lead us into unexpected discoveries.