Yes, but more exactly a trial-and-errorist.

On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Harry Veeder wrote:

In other words your God is an experimentalist., or what you call "Nature".

Harry



On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
I agree, but as has been noted many times before, Nature always tests all possibilities until the one that works is found. Presumably, our universe is here because it worked. We humans are here because we survived the tests used by Nature to determine what works. Presumably, many life- forms having greater awareness exist throughout the universe. Any life-form that fails
the test is eliminated, both on a personal level as well as on a
planet-sized level without any consideration by a "Creator". That's my
opinion.


On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote:

The laws of physics derive from a slight alteration of the perfect symmetry of nothing. Symmetry is the most fundamental principle of natural law. No
much space for patchwork universe there.
Giovanni


On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com >
wrote:

I have always been interested in how people describe a "Creator". Are you claiming that the universe resulted from some super intelligent life-form getting the idea that a new universe would be an interesting project and
then set about creating it?  Or is the idea of a creator an abstract
simplification of a process that would have occurred regardless of any intent? Too often the idea is applied to mankind as a reason why we are so special. Or at a more childish level, that God is here to answer our requests for personal protection or to help win sporting events. At which level are you describing the "Creator" and what use is the concept to
anyone?

Ed



On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Zell wrote:

Dawkins is an example of 'atheist theology' (oxymoron).  He seems to
desire a neat, ordered, understandable world without any Creator behind it. He extends traditional moral concerns to general society, as if they still had a Divine authority behind them. Why is objective truth important? Why
aren't some lies better?

I prefer to think that the lack of a Creator suggests that we should
expect a sort of patchwork universe, full of paradoxes and anomalies - such as Feyerabend suggested. It would make a lot more sense - and might lead us
into unexpected discoveries.






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