In other words your God is an experimentalist., or what you call "Nature".
Harry On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I agree, but as has been noted many times before, Nature always tests all > possibilities until the one that works is found. Presumably, our universe is > here because it worked. We humans are here because we survived the tests > used by Nature to determine what works. Presumably, many life-forms having > greater awareness exist throughout the universe. Any life-form that fails > the test is eliminated, both on a personal level as well as on a > planet-sized level without any consideration by a "Creator". That's my > opinion. > > > On Feb 15, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > > The laws of physics derive from a slight alteration of the perfect symmetry > of nothing. Symmetry is the most fundamental principle of natural law. No > much space for patchwork universe there. > Giovanni > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> > wrote: >> >> I have always been interested in how people describe a "Creator". Are you >> claiming that the universe resulted from some super intelligent life-form >> getting the idea that a new universe would be an interesting project and >> then set about creating it? Or is the idea of a creator an abstract >> simplification of a process that would have occurred regardless of any >> intent? Too often the idea is applied to mankind as a reason why we are so >> special. Or at a more childish level, that God is here to answer our >> requests for personal protection or to help win sporting events. At which >> level are you describing the "Creator" and what use is the concept to >> anyone? >> >> Ed >> >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2013, at 9:56 AM, Chris Zell wrote: >> >> Dawkins is an example of 'atheist theology' (oxymoron). He seems to >> desire a neat, ordered, understandable world without any Creator behind it. >> He extends traditional moral concerns to general society, as if they still >> had a Divine authority behind them. Why is objective truth important? Why >> aren't some lies better? >> >> I prefer to think that the lack of a Creator suggests that we should >> expect a sort of patchwork universe, full of paradoxes and anomalies - such >> as Feyerabend suggested. It would make a lot more sense - and might lead us >> into unexpected discoveries. >> >> > >
