Thanks, Ed. How were the samples made? Is it a process that can be
automated?

Jed's original assertion was "Ed stated with 90 cathodes. He tested them
and identified 4 that met all of his criteria. These 4 worked robustly, and
repeatedly. So, is that a 5% success rate, starting from the 90 cathodes?
Or is it a 100% success rate, with the 4 good ones?"

That's only success within a limited context which is the duration of the
experiments (or "tests" or whatever you'd like to call them). I'm not
pooh-poohing the results but I think that to claim or imply that the
technology of LENR is understood in any "deep" way or on the edge of
practicality is a little optimistic if someone with Ed's experience can't
be sure if a sample will work or not.

[mg]

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote:

> All electrolytic cathodes eventually die. Many work for weeks and can be
> removed from the cell and be restarted.  But, at some point, the energy
> production stops. I suspect so much material is deposited on the surface
> and so much stress is created by changes in composition that the active
> cracks grow too big to support the LENR process.  This lack of stability is
> one of the major limitatons in using electrolysis to study LENR.
>  Nevertheless, the amount of power and the resulting extra energy is too
> great to be explained by any chemical process.  Even creation of tritium
> stops after a awhile, never to start again. Very frustrating!!
>
> As for why some worked and some did not, I know of only two useful
> criteria. The Pd must load to high D/Pd and it can only do this if
> excessive cracks do not form throughout the metal. Most Pd forms internal
> cracks I call excess volume. In addition, the surface must be free of
> poisons that slow reaction with the resulting D2 gas.  Violante determined
> that crystal size and its preferred orientation was also important.
>  Nevertheless, I have made thin deposits of Pd on an inert metal work and
> several other people have made codeposition make heat, although I have not
> had success with this method.  People keep looking for the critical
> feature, but I believe they have not yet looked at small enough scale to
> see the active sites, which I believe are in the 1-5 nm range.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 21, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Mark Gibbs wrote:
>
> A question for Ed:
>
> On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>> The definition of "success rate" in these experiments is fuzzy. Ed stated
>> with 90 cathodes. He tested them and identified 4 that met all of his
>> criteria. These 4 worked robustly, and repeatedly. So, is that a 5% success
>> rate, starting from the 90 cathodes? Or is it a 100% success rate, with the
>> 4 good ones?
>>
>
> Regarding the four cathodes that "worked robustly, and repeatedly" ... how
> long did they work for? Are they still working? Do you know why they
> worked? Can working duplicates be made?
>
> [mg]
>
>
>

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