Your inexactitude in thinking is hard to overcome. Let us try another piece of info as follows:
When Rossi first stated his demonstrations and the public comments about them, his first few shows were marred by a troublesome condition during startup and shutdown where significant gamma radiation was produced. If you remember, Celani said about the January 14 demo as follows: "After various vicissitudes, because the reactor was having major problems, some inner resistors had broken down; Mr. Rossi came out of the room delighted: "The reactor has started". Before he came out, a few minutes before, I had independently measured that both the gamma detector and the mini Geiger had hit the top of the scale, whereas the two detectors of electromagnetic interference were not showing anything." This meant that a short but intense emission of gamma radiation had taken place. But while the reactor was in operation, at the demonstration on January 14, no measurable nuclear radiation was detected. Villa wrote: "The energy power input and output and gamma radiations were measured before, during and after the active phase of the system, as well as the hydrogen consumption. While a net energy output was observed, no γ excess (with energy above 200 keV has been measured above the natural background level (<180 Hz rate in single mode, compared to an expected rate largely in excess of 1 MHz)." Rossi eventually fixed this problem by getting his reactor up to operating temperature before startup by using a secondary heater. It was also suspected that Rossi's early reactors would cease to function after 48 hours. This failure was suspected to have caused the DGT-Rossi breakup. This peculiar reactor behavior suggests a separation between the mechanism that causes the LENR reaction and the mechanism that down-shifts the gamma radiation to heat. This behavior leads to the conclusion that there exist two separate and distinct LENR reaction mechanisms that are simultaneously active within the nuclear active zone. Recapitulating, one mechanism drives the LENR reaction and another mitigates the resultant gamma radiation. These two mechanisms may be symbiotic and reinforcing but the gamma mitigation mechanism is not required to startup or maintain the reaction. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > You can't be serious. **** > > ** ** > > These are extraordinarily low radiation counts over long periods. **** > > ** ** > > 35 megajoules of excess heat over 22 days and what? ... a few hundred > counts. LOL**** > > ** ** > > This is strong evidence against a direct correlation of radiation to heat > - not evidence for a correlation.**** > > ** ** > > Yes, there is evidence of QM reaction, but no one doubts that excess heat > will come with QM side effects.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Axil Axil **** > > ** ** > > *Evidence of electromagnetic radiation from Ni-H Systems* > > > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2004%2F2004Focardi-EvidenceOfElectromagneticRadiation.pdf&ei=-NpdUemSBITB4AP364CYBA&usg=AFQjCNHu3w5dimV_JIaouNutOQePoXu2Pg&sig2=ZCZ6WnU2Vjiyx3rrr9DHFQ > **** > > **** > > **** > > I have posted this about a half dozen times so far, but you seem to have a > block to it.**** > > This experiment shows the reaction with and without gamma radiation **** > > ** ** > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:** > ** > > **** > > **** > > *From:* Axil Axil **** > > **** > > *The reason this claim of W-L theory is ludicrous --- Of course this is > not LENR, but it is the model for gamma downshifting, and if you want to > assert two distinct miracles - then it is wise to show some other evidence > than the very phenomenon you wish to explain - with your outrageous claim. > ***** > > **** > > Gamma suppression does not cause LENR; it is accidental to the LENR > reaction.**** > > **** > > However, it is still very important. It is the principle demarcation line > between LENR and LENR+.**** > > **** > > Nonsense. There is no such thing as "gamma suppression" ... It is a complete > fabrication of W-L without a shred of evidence AFAIK... if you have the > evidence, please show it**** > > **** > > The LENR reaction emits gammas and this energy release destroys the > nuclear active sites. The LENR reactions will soon stop as the NAE are > blown apart and cratered.**** > > **** > > More disinformation. There is no possibility of nano-sized sites stopping > gamma radiation. This requires thick lead shielding.**** > > **** > > On the other hand, LENR+ thermalizes the energy that is produced in the > NAE as a secondary mechanism, but this thermalization of the reaction > allows the LENR+ reaction to occur over and over again from the same NAE > for months on end.**** > > **** > > There is no evidence for this.**** > > **** > > ** ** >
