On Fri, 12 Apr 2013, Terry Blanton wrote:

Just one other statement.  Magnets in repulsion can be made to appear
to be successful in a magmo.  But the magnets are degraded in each
cycle of the motor, much like striking the magnet with a hammer in
each cycle.  Eventually it fails.

That might be the key to making a successful toy: a "PM machine" which runs for impressively long time, then needs refueling. Some toys even create millionaires.

If the toy could use ceramic or alnico magnets which become weakened, then the owner could easily "refuel" by using a neo magnet to restore the pattern of poles which powers the flywheel. No expensive cap-discharge magnetizers needed, so the selling price wouldn't exclude it from toy catalogs. The work done by your hands is re-magnetizing the magnets and then powering the flywheel.

From older msgs: in a cycle, move two repelling north poles apart, then
weaken one or both, then bring them back together. They will accelerate. But normally the poles will be weakened when forced into close separation, and that decellerates the motion. Also, the process of demagnetizing a magnet will require work and produce heating, so the energy being produced by the weakening flywheel must be more than enough enough to power the demagnetizer mechanism. A simple rotor-stator might be found to accelerate, if built from both ceramic and neos, or from two materials of differing hysterisis curves, or from poles of asymmetric sizes (wide ones interspersed with narrow ones.) Or perhaps a pair of stacked rotors could do it more easily, or concentric cylinders.

Magnetic motors working in attraction mode do not degrade the magnets;
but, my experience is that the cycle is conservative.

That mode might be harnessed also: in a cycle, bring two ceramic magnet poles together in attraction, use a tiny neo magnet to weaken one, then let them coast apart to their original separation.

The big question: which industry is more likely to attract workshop break-ins or murder attempts: the free energy biz, or the cutthroat toy biz? :)



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