Jed, is it possible that you found the cost of laboratory pure nickel isotopes 
instead of industrial grade?  I suspect it would be easier to do a modest 
enrichment with some form of chemical and centrifuge separation process instead 
of the more sophisticated techniques.  The difference in weight of the nickel 
isotopes seems rather large at first glance.


Perhaps a business can be started to do this type of thing if it is important 
enough.  First, you would need to find a liquid containing nickel that can be 
put into a centrifuge for separation.  I know little of these techniques, but 
there may be some guys monitoring vortex that are familiar with these types of 
systems who might offer suggestions.


At the costs you quoted, I would bet there are alternatives that good engineers 
or scientists can develop.  This seems like a good challenge.  DGT may have 
already found such a technique or a company that offers the materials.


The density of the separated portion of the input liquid is an indication of 
the amount of an isotope present.  That is the way you might be able to test 
your separation efficiency.  Since you know how much of each isotope is in the 
raw material, you know what per cent of the liquid to draw off initially at the 
heavy end or light end.


We need to keep an open mind when we discuss what can or can not be done.  It 
might cost a small fortune to obtain special isotopes, but who can be sure 
unless they have the direct knowledge.


Just a guess seeking a solution,


Dave



-----Original Message-----
From: Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Some comments by me at Mats Lewan blog


I wrote:
 


I have spoken with some of the experts who went. They are under NDA so I cannot 
ask any specific questions, but they seemed unimpressed. Maybe the results have 
improved.



To be a little more specific, they said it was inconclusive. Most experiments 
are inconclusive.


 

Defkalion has made many claims and many promises in the past they did not 
fulfill. They did not break any laws by doing this, but they did hurt their own 
credibility.




I put that too strongly. I should not say "break laws." Of course they didn't. 
Mary Yugo said they have "a lot of explaining to do" because they made claims 
of 30 machines and tests by the Greek government and blah, blah. Okay, I'll 
say, "a lot of explaining to do. A lot to answer for." Even that is silly 
because a private corporation has no obligation to explain things. They do not 
owe Mary Yugo or me any information about anything. Period.


However, if they want credibility and good public relations they should watch 
what they say. They should try to follow through more often. Don't cry "wolf!" 
Don't casually throw out the claim that you tested nickel isotopes. You have to 
explain how and why, because many of us know that monoisotopic samples cost 
fantastic sums of money and Defkalion appears to be broke, so that is kind of 
suspicious. Instead of throwing this out, as if anyone can buy isotopes at Wall 
Mart, they should publish a brief report that starts off:


"In cooperation with XYZ lab we tested monoisotopic samples (Isoflex Inc.) 
ranging from 1 to 8 g. . . ."


I tend to dismiss their claims about their business because of their track 
record of blathering and not following through.


- Jed




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