LeClair wants to use patent law to be a gatekeeper for his technology. But
we all know that LENR is not patentable.

If you wanted to replicate LeClair's reactor, you might be involved in a
legal wrangle with him. But you might have a case to dispute the patent in
that LENR does not exist.

One might need to study the patent to see what is claimed and what has
actually been patented. We know LENR cannot be patented.

A determined experimenter might find a way to overcome LeClair’s controls.


On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Mark Gibbs <mgi...@gibbs.com> wrote:

> I was querying Axil's original claim:
>
> "If these experimenters wanted to produce gammas, they only need to
> replicate the LeClair cavitation reactor. $250 dollars will do it. A year
> in the hospital from radiation exposure should be enough to rid them of
> their obsession from gamma radiation. They may also get a dose of neutrons
> and alpha particles."
>
> Which made it sound like such an experiment was possible. As it isn't
> possible because LeClair won't allow it then the assertion " they only need
> to replicate the LeClair cavitation reactor" is pointless.
>
> [m]
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:17 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's the logical implication of what Axil's saying.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Mark Gibbs <mgi...@gibbs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, in reality, the LeClair effect can't be duplicated either because
>>> LeClair won't permit it or because it doesn't actually exist.
>>>
>>> [m]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think what Axil is saying is that LeClair is claiming research
>>>> replication as "beneficial use" and must, therefore, be licensed by the
>>>> patent owner.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Mark Gibbs <mgi...@gibbs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But that doesn't answer the question: If it only costs $250 to
>>>>> replicate LeClair's experiment why hasn't it been done?
>>>>>
>>>>> [m]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> LeClair has patented the whole process including replication. That is
>>>>>> what he states, I don't know if this statement holds water. He says that
>>>>>> replication is extremely dangerous and he does not want to see anybody go
>>>>>> through what he when through..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Mark Gibbs <mgi...@gibbs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really? Is LeClair's experiment that easily replicated? If it can be
>>>>>>> done for $250 why has no one else done it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [m]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  If these experimenters wanted to produce gammas, they only need
>>>>>>>> to replicate the LeClair cavitation reactor. $250 dollars will do it. A
>>>>>>>> year in the hospital from radiation exposure should be enough to rid 
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> of their obsession from gamma radiation. They may also get a dose of
>>>>>>>> neutrons and alpha particles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After that, they will be where LeClair is now, regarded as a madman
>>>>>>>> by all and sundry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Blaze Spinnaker <
>>>>>>>> blazespinna...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyways, the reality is (remember that? reality?) that MFMP is
>>>>>>>>> constrained by resources just like everyone else is in the physical 
>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>> world.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have experiments that you would like to see done and
>>>>>>>>> tools/equipment/materials you can give them, I am pretty sure they'd 
>>>>>>>>> be all
>>>>>>>>> over that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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