*The major reaction in the Ni/H reaction is the  fission reaction. You are
wallowing in a morass of invalid information. Learn about the fractional
quantum hall effect to get onto the right track.*

Actually Axil, we don't know what it is. You're entitled to your
interpretation but that's all it is. Not enough data exists to support your
assertions no matter how well thought out they are.

As to John Franks' antagonistic demands for a "definitive experiment"
(presumably for evidence of excess heat), those demands had been met many
times already by 1994 (McKubre, Storms, Oriani, Huggins, Arata, Bockris,
etc.). If he had cared to look back on the history of the field + the
archived technical papers he could have answered his own questions before
coming in here for the most basic of information.

Faraday efficiency has to do with recombination. Recombination has been
ruled out many times over in LENR experiments. Mr. Franks, do you honestly
think highly trained electrochemists did not understand
that rudimentary recombination might be a factor worth ruling out early on?

Even though progress has been made, we still don't know what the mechanism
is. So what? Experiment is king in science, and it sometimes takes a
generation or more to discover what the exact mechanism for a new
phenomenon is. Discounting a discovery for the reason that it does not fit
into current theory totally flips scientific protocol on its head and is an
amateurish understanding of scientific method at best. We are dealing with
a messy, complex, chemical system, not highly controllable 2 body nuclear
interactions in a vacuum like most physicists are used to. Unreasonable
demands for high repeatability make no sense for these types of complex,
highly non-linear systems, especially in the early stages of development.
Scientific history is full of such stubbornly unrepeatable cases that are
nonetheless legitimate science (cloning a sheep for example). Significant
progress in terms of repeatability has been made however; take Energetics
in Israel (now at U of M) for example who had reach ~70-80% repeatability
in their cells.

Mr. Franks I suggest you educate yourself more before storming in with
nonsense arguments that are outdated by almost 20 years.

Regards,
John M


On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The major reaction in the Ni/H reaction is the  fission reaction. You are
> wallowing in a morass of invalid information. Learn about the fractional
> quantum hall effect to get onto the right track.
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 7:28 PM, John Franks <jf27...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Vortex,
>>
>> What is Faraday Efficiency and might it be behind some of the mistaken
>> claims of excess heat from LENR?
>>
>> And all this talk of "imagination" in other threads, relativistic
>> electrons, the lattice somehow doing something, how is it possible to get
>> two nucleons close enough for the strong force to take over?
>>
>> You can't get lower than the ground state and 0.1nm or so is a lot larger
>> than the 0.1pm and less to get significant fusion. This shielding talk
>> seems is bogus as is talk of "other types of nuclear reactions that don't
>> produce neutrons or gamma rays".
>>
>> Why can't you LENR people do one definitive experiment after all these
>> years (going on 25) and 100s of millions of dollars?
>>
>> JF.
>>
>
>

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