But we have hundreds of examples of heat production and now companies claim > they will provide generators. What more do we need to get massive support? > What benefit would a device producing 4 mW of power add? > ***4 mW will generate a TON of benefit as long as 4microWatts is the input. Think about it: You can get 4microwatts sustained input from a potato.
> > > > But there is another, perhaps far more important problem - attracting > massive investment and recognition from labs everywhere. > ***As much as it pains me to say.... Blaze is correct in this particular > assessment. > > > But this evidence has been provided without massive support being > provided. This is not a fantasy. You need to acknowledge what happens in > the real world. The real world is giving money to development, not to basic > understanding. I predict this will end in tears. > ***Well, then, the name of the game is "basic understanding". None of us have a 'basic understanding' of the theory going on here, only that the Experiments have produced Excess Heat (and nuclear products), that is our "basic" understanding. The rest of the world needs to catch up to our 'basic understanding', and they simply will not... without a huge mainstream media infusion such as what the X-Prize offers. Unless a person knows how and why it works, which is not known, the information is worthless. ***I completely disagree. The generation of the artifact is very WORTHwhile, and that triggers interest from scientists who would otherwise be engaged in something else. > > Ed Storms > > > > > On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:26 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com>wrote: > >> The approach expressed here is very depressing. We know that LENR is >> real. Buying and testing a Nanor would gain a person nothing. Unless a >> person knows how and why it works, which is not known, the information is >> worthless. The important investment is in acquiring information about how >> LENR works. So far, this approach is not bring used effectively. All >> present explanations can be shown not to explain the process. A person can >> disagree about what kind of explanation might be correct, but the present >> explanations are clearly wrong. Until this situation changes, I believe >> investment in a device will produce very little of value. >> >> We are like a person in 1800 being shown a smart phone and being asked to >> make another one. You can imagine all the explanations of how it worked >> that would be discussed, with none of them being even close to the correct >> one. That is the situation now in LENR. People have no idea how it works, >> yet they are certain they have a correct understanding. This is like trying >> to design heavier than air flight before the Wright Brothers or a durable >> light bulb before Edison. Why not invest in getting knowledge? >> >> Ed Storms >> >> >> >> On Feb 10, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Blaze Spinnaker wrote: >> >> If someone had 50K I'd say try to buy a Nanor from Michael Swartz of Jet >> Energy and test that. >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Kevin O'Malley <kevmol...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> If someone asked me "what kind of research can I do with $50,000?" I >>> would say go to the racetrack and bet the money. You will have more chance >>> of making a profit than you would putting the money in cold fusion. >>> ***The LENR corner-turn is getting to that level. I am in >>> correspondence with the X-Prize committee, proposing a LENR replication >>> prize for Techshop and following the MFMP recipe. I think that with a >>> techshop, $100k, and some guidance, someone with as pedestrian an intellect >>> such as mine could replicate those Gamma rays. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> if an extremely wealthy person such as Bill Gates believed that cold >>>>>> fusion is real, he would be crazy no to invest in it. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Assuming he was not doing it for philanthropic purposes, wouldn't he >>>>> be crazy to let anyone know he was investing in it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I would find out. People such as Ed Storms and McKubre would find out. >>>> It is a small world. People are not going to do research without word >>>> getting out. I may not know where the money is coming from, but if someone >>>> starts spending millions per year on cold fusion, they will have to hire >>>> grad students and consult with people, and word will get out. >>>> >>>> If you are a billionaire but you are only going to spend tens of >>>> thousands instead of millions, I might not hear about it. An investor who >>>> does not spend millions is wasting his money. If we could get somewhere >>>> with shoestring budgets, we would have made progress years ago. If someone >>>> asked me "what kind of research can I do with $50,000?" I would say go to >>>> the racetrack and bet the money. You will have more chance of making a >>>> profit than you would putting the money in cold fusion. >>>> >>>> - Jed >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >
