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... he [Admiral Steidle] could be referring to something else instead of
LENR and ... it is remotely possible that he is referring to another kind of
nanotube technology which does not involve LENR, or ZPE - but seriously -
what would that be?

OK. Let me clarify that rhetorical question, since the Admiral did mention
"nuclear" but not LENR per se, and there is a third or hybrid possibility.
Actually there is a fourth possibility too.

For two decades there has been the question of a hybrid of LENR and hot
fusion, which could mean something like LENR with uranium or thorium. There
are papers on the LENR-CANR site relative to this with actual experiments.
Curiously, the thorium version seems to be endothermic.

Presumably much of the interior heat of Earth could be provided this way a
hybrid LENR reaction with a heavy metal - assuming that there is
"neutron-less" fission which could happen with a non-fissile isotope (U-238)
via LENR and a proton which looks like a neutron (virtual neutron). This is
old hat.

As fate would have it, this concept turned up on Rossi's blog yesterday...
under the guise of the a putative new physics called "tresino" physics. LOL.
But to cut through the crap, this is little more a blatant theft of Randell
Mills theory and is twenty years old.

Exactly like Mills' "hydrino hydride" (tm) - the so-called tresino has a net
negative charge and is quite small (thousands of time smaller than the
hydrogen atom by volume). On vortex, we have been calling this species f/H
or fractional hydrogen, since Mills has trademarked the name "hydrino". 

Other names are dense hydrogen, DDL hydrogen, IRH (inverted Rydberg
hydrogen) hydrogen clusters etc. The ion may be stable or not, depending on
which theory is employed since it is not proved.

The ion would stable as a negatively charged ion under Mills theory. It
could possibly interact with a heavy metal but the more interesting thing,
by far, is the 3 proton reaction.

P+(f/H-)+P = ?  

ANSWER: A version of the trihydrogen cation is the result and it is far from
rare.

This species is also known as protonated molecular hydrogen or H3+, and it
is the most abundant or second most abundant ion in the Universe, so it is
very common. On Earth it seems to be rare, but possibly not in condensed
matter.

H3+ is stable in the interstellar medium, which is a place that anions are
not as stable as cations - due to the low temperature and low density of
interstellar space. In condensed matter it would be stable due to lots of
valence electrons spreading and hiding the net positive charge.

"The role that H3+ plays in the gas-phase chemistry of the Interstellar
Medium is unparalleled by any other molecular ion." Wiki quote. 

In short, for LENR - using the H2- anion as Mills claims is possible, but
this cation could be the real basis of the reversible fusion reaction, which
has been promoted here by me in the past as RPF - the diproton reaction. 

But instead of that particular diproton route, the molecular isomer H3+
would proceed with higher probability in condensed matter (most likely). It
would still be RPF with the consecutive Lamb Shift energy anomaly, happening
at THz frequencies, but the cation never splits apart - it just hums along,
dumping excess proton mass. This continues until that mass is converted to
energy (7 parts per million of extra mass or ~7keV per proton).

Jones



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