Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com> wrote: So, is it OK to accuse DGT of anything without providing any names, photos? >
I am not "accusing" them of anything. They themselves announced they were closing down operations in Greece, years ago. One or two of their people moved to Canada. The rest of the staff quit. They said they could not get funded in Greece, so they had to close down the lab there. THEY said that, not me. They said they hoped to get funding in Canada. Obviously, they did not get it, because they still have no employees. They had some kind of facility in Italy which they used during the ICCF17 demo. I do not know about that one. The one I know about was in Greece. They told Lewan they spend 7 million Euros there. It was an impressive lab. > And I am not calling "people" "liars", just you. > No one is calling anyone a liar! I am repeating what Defkalion announced in their press release, that the lab was closing down. > That's because you should be the first to know how fragile cold fusion > is, but you are shamelessly badmouthing a company that may really change > world. > I do not see how they can change the world. They have two non-technical people, no money, not a single paper, and apparently no product. Many technical experts visited them, as described in the book. As far as I know, not a single one of those experts saw a convincing test. Most of them said the calorimetry did not work. If they have a convincing test done by an outside expert, they should publish it. They promised to do this years ago. They themselves are holding back all of the evaluations under NDAs that they themselves insisted on. If they have a positive report they could dissolve the NDA and publish it any time. In my opinion, until they publish an independent evaluation, they have no credibility. They have never published ANYTHING technical. Not even a calibration curve. They do not get a free pass. We do not help the cause of cold fusion by giving credibility to people who have done nothing to deserve it. People who do not publish scientific data themselves, or allow scientists to examine and freely publish their findings. Rossi is no scientist. His own tests are inexcusably sloppy. But he allowed the people from Elforsk to test his machine, and he let them publish. - Jed