I think Rossi has killed off your waiting. It happened 1 1/2 years ago with his 490Kw reactor demonstration in Italy. The closed loop issue is only academic IMHO.
Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Breed To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kudos to Jed I've now been watching this field for the better part of 30yrs. I remember the hope that accompanied the P+F announcement. I started paying more attention again about 18 mo ago. If one was to graph credibility and percentage of break even carnot COP IMHO I would have to put the 50% credible line at a COP of 2 and temperature of 100C. I keep hoping that some one will show up with a device that can reliably close the loop and generate more energy than in uses in a closed loop. I'm still waiting, Ive been waiting for close to 30 years. On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Daniel Rocha <danieldi...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't know how to judge mankind. Each person is a universe in itself, I don't know how to tell if they are good or evil, a binary division. But in general, people respond to what is present to their senses. So, creating a fog is not necessarily "evil", it may be necessary, in some circumstances, to even save one's neck. 2014-05-15 15:34 GMT-03:00 Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com>: This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup! (lenn...@thornros.com) Add cleanup rule | More info Daniel - I basically believe in the positive side of man kind. Any false information will do no good. Just the opposite. I am aware that there is evil people but they have no room to play if information is forthcoming in a complete and accurate form. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com