Its pretty clear that the SPAWAR experiments saw high energy neutrons in their 
experiments, which were reasonable well funded.  They also saw high energy 
protons and alphas.  These were apparently "hot fusion" type reactions.  

However, they also saw what they called cold fusion--LENR--reactions that 
produced no gammas and apparently fused D-D to helium with a 24 Mev 
distribution of energy.  They indicated that the gammas were suppressed and 
postulated a Mossbauer type effect which distributed the energy to the matrix.  
The correlation to excess energy is not spelled out in the 2009 presentation, 
however.  It is only briefly discussed in one or two slides of the power point 
presentation.  I remember it is discussed in more detail in another 
presentation which I do not have handy. 

Thus, SPAWAR seems to claim both hot fusion and cold fusion at the same time 
with respect to He formation.  

See a presentation of their results at:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CEwQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2009%2F2009SPAWAR-ET-AL-UM.pdf&ei=L-gaVMrfIcXdoASRmIGoDQ&usg=AFQjCNGB2CY_kaqEk7hfQgtKRwtrA3GWxg&bvm=bv.75742615,d.cGU

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ian Walker 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:gossip from "Paul", at E-Cat world


  Hmm... Lithium

  Hmm... Graphite and Beryllium or maybe a Hydrocarbon.

  Moderation may well be the key and granular size and percentage in the mix.




  On 18 September 2014 09:43, Ian Walker <walker...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hmm... Boron.




    On 18 September 2014 09:32, Ian Walker <walker...@gmail.com> wrote:

      The Reference to Neutron production is telling.
      This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, 
eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n.

      Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe.

      p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR!

      What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a 
significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process 
that creates such supposed Neutrons.

      MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably 
repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they 
were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the 
reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible 
health reasons.

      If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with 
the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the 
reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we 
see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such 
Neutrons don't feed the reaction.

      Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a 
bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the 
reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction 
chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks 
reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the 
reaction maintains it self.

      Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has 
been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition 
that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks 
level.



      On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting 
post at E-Cat World:


        http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/



        Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable 
site for news.


        Eric







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