Its pretty clear that the SPAWAR experiments saw high energy neutrons in their experiments, which were reasonable well funded. They also saw high energy protons and alphas. These were apparently "hot fusion" type reactions.
However, they also saw what they called cold fusion--LENR--reactions that produced no gammas and apparently fused D-D to helium with a 24 Mev distribution of energy. They indicated that the gammas were suppressed and postulated a Mossbauer type effect which distributed the energy to the matrix. The correlation to excess energy is not spelled out in the 2009 presentation, however. It is only briefly discussed in one or two slides of the power point presentation. I remember it is discussed in more detail in another presentation which I do not have handy. Thus, SPAWAR seems to claim both hot fusion and cold fusion at the same time with respect to He formation. See a presentation of their results at: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CEwQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewenergytimes.com%2Fv2%2Flibrary%2F2009%2F2009SPAWAR-ET-AL-UM.pdf&ei=L-gaVMrfIcXdoASRmIGoDQ&usg=AFQjCNGB2CY_kaqEk7hfQgtKRwtrA3GWxg&bvm=bv.75742615,d.cGU Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Walker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:gossip from "Paul", at E-Cat world Hmm... Lithium Hmm... Graphite and Beryllium or maybe a Hydrocarbon. Moderation may well be the key and granular size and percentage in the mix. On 18 September 2014 09:43, Ian Walker <walker...@gmail.com> wrote: Hmm... Boron. On 18 September 2014 09:32, Ian Walker <walker...@gmail.com> wrote: The Reference to Neutron production is telling. This gives an area to research for others and a clue as to the process, eg one that is capable of producing Neutrons of an energy n. Neutron decay is: n0 → p+ + e− + νe. p and e could be the more important energy producers in LENR! What energy such Neutrons have and where they decay would be a significant proportion of the energy in the reaction; depending on the process that creates such supposed Neutrons. MFMP had gamma bursts in their experiments and that has been reliably repeated both by them selves and other labs. For some time I have thought they were the equivalent of a car back firing that poisons the LENR and that for the reaction to be stable that it had to be prevented as well as for possible health reasons. If the Neutrons are literally Low Energy Neutrons then if the decay with the reaction chamber, and I am talking nanometres here, then they sustain the reaction if they are higher energy they spit out beyond the reaction then we see the classic gamma burst from Neutron decay outside the reactor and such Neutrons don't feed the reaction. Now bear in mind that in such a reaction, Neutrons would probably be a bell curve of energies, some supporting the reaction other Neutrons exiting the reactor proper yet others decaying destructively to the LENR within reaction chamber THEN obtaining fine control of that Neutron energy is a goldilocks reaction! The porridge can be too HOT or too COLD but if it is just right the reaction maintains it self. Such a process of where the Neutrons decay would explain why LENR has been so hard to replicate reliably and Rossi's secret catalyst is an addition that catalyses and decays the neutron at the correct JUST RIGHT goldilocks level. On 18 September 2014 06:05, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: Speaking of grasping for every little straw, there was an interesting post at E-Cat World: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/09/17/e-cat-rumor-from-a/ Congratulations go to Frank Acland for making this an indispensable site for news. Eric