far above curie limit for Ni, magnetic fields won't move powder
magnetically, only ions, but temps are too low for significant Li or H ions
to exist, and no ionising radiation sources in evidence.

On 13 October 2014 00:49, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Yes but in that case the core can be hotter then the cables. We don't know
> about the powder, and the changes of magnetic fields inside the core could
> stir the powder around and by changing that behavior you might end up
> controlling the reaction rate. Also inductive heating of an inner
> containing cylinder does produce a fast response to the actual cylinder
> which controls the heat radiative environment in there.
>
> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Robert Lynn <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> inductive heating only works on conductive materials with sufficient
>> thickness/area through which the changing magnetic flux passes to allow
>> eddy currents to form.  With 150Hz pulses Nickel particles of tiny scale
>> would not be affected (like thin motor laminates) - it would only work to
>> heat a secondary metal body that could then heat via radiation (very
>> inefficient, and of no practical benefit).
>>
>> On 13 October 2014 00:35, Stefan Israelsson Tampe <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> How do we know that iti s resistive heating that is taking place? Bob
>>> Greenyer at MFMP sugested that it is an inductive heater this means that
>>> the wires
>>> get a bit cooler then the heated core.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Robert Lynn <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Fig 12b. page 26.   Only just notice that they say they are "inconel"
>>>> resistance wires.  But how can the resistor wire, external to the reactor,
>>>> glow more brightly than the reactor itself (implying it is hotter)?  Also
>>>> if the reactor external surface is at 1250-1410°C, then on top of the
>>>> 30-50°C temperature drop through the walls the resistive wire would have to
>>>> be even hotter (up towards 1500°C)  in order to be able to radiate the
>>>> 900W!  And there are no "inconel" metal wires that can survive such
>>>> temperatures in air for a month.
>>>> http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html
>>>>
>>>> There is also a mistake in their discussion for these figures, the
>>>> metal resistors within the reactor would necessarily have to be hotter than
>>>> the reactor itself if they are to be able to output heat into the reactor.
>>>> But then again at >1450°C inconel resistance wires would have turned into
>>>> puddles anyway.
>>>>
>>>> The 2mm high fins on the outside, subjected to convective air cooling
>>>> would be 30-50°C colder than the base of the fins due to the longer
>>>> conduction path and hence greater temperature drop through the alumina.
>>>> And that should influence the thermography to under-read, but also means
>>>> the temperature within the reactor would have to be even higher to create
>>>> 1400°C average surface temperature.
>>>>
>>>> So this proves that the thermographic temperature readings are off by a
>>>> very long way - at least 150-200°C too high if inconel wires that max-out
>>>> at about 1300-1350°C were to have survived for a month.  We now know there
>>>> is a huge error, we just don't know the source of the error, or how big the
>>>> error is.  But eg 1210°C vs 1410°C would drop power output by 40% from that
>>>> claimed so that the COP would be <2.
>>>>
>>>> With the existence of such a huge error of unknown source the claims of
>>>> power output cannot not be trusted at all.
>>>>
>>>> On the upside, it does however mean that the nickel was not melted, and
>>>> lithium vapour pressure was a lot lower.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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