You have a good understanding in my opinion. There is no doubt that energy is being generated within the core.
Dave -----Original Message----- From: Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> To: Vortex List <vortex-l@eskimo.com> Sent: Wed, Oct 15, 2014 12:59 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:E-cat : Minimum COP assuming worst mistakes possible "A calibration curve will bend down. It never bends up." this mean that temperature grow less than the power ? this mean that when you increase the power, and if temperature grows much more that before, something anomalous is happening ? Either excess heat, or some external blanket effect (increase of thermal resistance)... but convection does not diminish with heat? did I undertand well? 2014-10-14 22:09 GMT+02:00 Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>: Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com> wrote: is there a simple way , with minimal assumption, to be sure that the COP>1 Look at the color. If it is dull red, it may be around 750°C which is where you would expect it to be in a straight line extrapolation calibration up to 800 W. If it is white it has to be around 1300°C, which is far higher than the calibration indicates it should be. A calibration curve will bend down. It never bends up. McKubre pointed this out: On page 7 of the report the authors state: “Subsequent calculation proved that increasing the input by roughly 100 watts had caused an increase of about 700 watts in power emitted.” This is interesting. The shape of the output vs. input power curve is observed (or implied) to strongly curve upwards in a manner completely inconsistent with the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiative heat loss. It is also inconsistent with simple convective heat transfer but several issues need to be addressed before we can claim this as a qualitative or even “semi-quantitative” measure of excess heat production . . . Note that incandescent colors are similar for all materials. - Jed
