----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Duff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 1999 2:44 PM
Subject: [voyager] Re: Amiga upgrades
> On 04-May-99, Robert L. Williamson wrote:
> > Even with an '040, my Amiga runs at a snail's pace compared
> > to the 400MHz Celeron.
>
> I have an '060 Amiga and a P-II 400 PC, and I haven't noticed my miggy
running
> at a snail's pace by comparison, at least in common apps. My miggy is
very
> quick and even more responsive than the PC. It also leaves tiretracks all
> over my soon-to-be-departed 132Mhz PowerMac. At raytracing or 3D
> gaming, however, the PC and Mac blow it away.
We really don't have the same comparison basis, of course. I have a
slightly
crippled '040 Amiga (no RAM on the accellerator), and a slightly slower PC
(it has a Celeron, rather than a P-II). My machines are definately not
comparable.
The difference is clock speed. I think that the Amiga's completely
integrated
GUI/graphics environment is a distinct advantage over the PC, but when it
comes to pure number crunching, it doesn't matter what machine you have.
The only important thing is how fast the processor can calculate, and all
the
Amiga's inherant advantages have no effect, there.
> Most of that should be addressed when (and if) AMozilla gets released in
July.
Any more I consider all promises to be vapor until they actually appear.
I'm
not holding out any hopes at all for AMozilla.
> It's already defunct technology. You're from Kansas City? Where can you
take
> an Amiga for repair?
Nowhere. Never have been able to (fortunately, my Amigas have never needed
repair). In fact we only had two Amiga dealers -- one went under and the
other
jumped boat for PCs early in the Amiga's best time period. At one time we
had
three or four dealers listed as part of the "official" dealership. Not a
single one of
them ever had an Amiga, or even software, for sale. They were all graphics
developers, taking advantage of their "dealership" status to get cheap stuff
for
their own use.
> > And for an extra $200 you can buy a Pentium-class machine that will run
> > circles around your upgraded A1200 in virtually any application
environment
> > you care to suggest.
>
> Not true. You can buy the PC for that price, but it will not run circles
> around an '060 Amiga to the extent you describe.
I guess our information doesn't match, then. If I shop around I can get a
450MHz PII for under $1000. Sorry, but I don't see any '060 being able to
beat
that machine's raw computing capacity. Again, it boils down to MHz -- not
operating systems. If you're doing word processing, it doesn't matter much.
The
PC just spends much more of it's time waiting on you. Anything requiring
much
number crunching is going to be *much* faster on the PC -- unless they've
got
450MHz '060s (I don't think so, but I could be wrong).
> My Amiga connects faster than my PC (15-20 seconds average for Amiga,
30-40
> for PC). Both machines have 56K modems and the Amiga browsers are just as
> fast as the PC browsers (and much faster than Mac browsers). I know other
> people with Amigas having a full-time ethernet connection to the internet.
> CPU speed has very little to do with internet speed, as you should well
know.
Of course not. Here we are once again talking about the Amiga's outdated
interfacing hardware (in this case the serial port). I get comparable
connect
times, but the Amiga falls behind very quickly after that. On my Amiga I
used
to dread downloading files from Aminet. Now it's a snap with my PC.
> Chances are you just haven't purchased an I/O Extender and a fast modem
for
> your miggy. Am I right? :>
Yes (sort of) and no. There is an I/O Extender built into my GForce card,
but like
much of the rest of the card it doesn't work, anymore (the memory went bye
bye,
too). The modems are comparable.
[ re. the Amiga ]
> I like the environment. I like the MUI interface and the fast response.
Some people love MUI and some people hate it. I, for one, happen to like
the fact that Ollie chose MUI for Voyager (yes, I registered both). I don't
see
how one person could possibly have programmed Voyager without it. To be
honest, I don't see how one person could have programmed it *with* MUI,
either, though.
> The only thing that crashes regularly
> is IE4, so there's not much to complain about.
I use IE5. Haven't had a single crash. For that matter, Voyager has never
crashed on me, either (although MUI did on a few occasions and took Voyager
with it).
> The only thing I say is I like the Amiga more. I like Voyager and its
many
> options. I may complain about how it displays improperly-coded HTML on
many
> pages, but if the pages had been written correctly, they'd display
correctly.
> This small inconvenience is more than made up for, to me, by the cool
> Fastlinks option, the good cache control and the excellent speed of the
app.
Well, I have to agree with you completely about Voyager. I just recently
downloaded
UAE. When I get it to working the first application I'll be installing on
my PC is,
you guessed it, Voyager (well, actually MUI, but that's only so I can run
Voyager).
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