We are about number 25 on the speed list I believe...

We have an archaic phone system, it has been managed about as badly as it could be and I have no faith whatever that NBN could change things if it ever happens.


Bill




On 12/02/2011, at 7:28 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


Hi Carlo

Though I agree with what you're saying, the only thing that is holding me back from being 100% convinced is the internet speeds here in Australia. I know in America and other places around the world (not that I travel, but what I hear from other clients) is that internet overseas (generally) is "super fast". Unfortunately here in Australia (and New Zealand) we tend to
be crippled.
Even with the Governments NBN (National Broadband Network), I still think we'll be behind the eight ball. I think we are falling way behind when it
comes to that and we need to be looking at some of the other "more
progressive" countries that better internet then us, even when we get
faster.
Don't get me wrong, I think some of the ISPs plans now are great. I love my iinet plan with it's 400GB limit that I never get close to. But I can only get ADSL1. Luckily I leave about 4 doors from my sub-exchange so I can get an 8MB connection, which I thrash the speed on. But I still can't get ADSL2 because it's a sub-exchange. So from that point downloading files will also
take a while. (Or maybe I'm just being greedy).

Maybe I'm missing a few things with that part of it. But yes, if our
downloads speeds and limits start to get better then that will help.
Unfortunately, and hopefully this doesn't get taken the wrong, if Apple only
look and base it on how things run in the US with internet, then sure
Optical drives can be replaced with download services. But other places
around the world, that's not always the case.
Again, as I sometime live in my "own little bubble" I may be missing (or
misunderstanding) some things to do with this ;)
I'm open to be enlightened though ;) hehe.

In saying that, I'm not complaining about my download speed compared to some others. Though when I go to clients places (or read on WAMUG) people that are getting downloads speeds of over 1.2-1.5MB/sec,...I must admit I feel a
little jealous :)))
Click,...few seconds wait,..download done. WOW!
When everyone in Australia can have that (including some our poor country
region people),..I will be happy. :))

I'll get off my soapbox now, cause I'm sure I could carry this on for
ages,...lol,......

<You may now return to your normal broadcasted program.> :o))

Kind Regards
Daniel

Oh, and lol on the Apples and Banana's. :)
Reminded me of this,..which I LOVE! (so funny)
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI&amp;feature=player_embedded >


On 12/2/11 3:17 PM, "cm" <cm200...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Daniel,

I now have my Woolworths Apples, and even some bananas that I have hidden in
my house safe. :-)

I think the days of CD, DVD, and even Blueray are numbered. I have two SuperDrives in the house, one in a Mac mini and one in a Mac Book Pro, and that is one too many. The last time I used the drive was to burn a DVD for a
less tech-savvy friend who cannot view .mp4 files.

The CD drive will be the last mechanical, bulky, and power hungry part of a computer once SSDs are the norm. If the movie studios were not engaged in a futile fight to stop the digital distribution of films, error prone bulky DVDs would also be a lot less prevalent. Netflicks in US is promoting and seeing a rapid increase in digital downloads, and is relying less on mailing DVDs.

As you pointed out, thumb drives are useful for installing the OS. The rest of our software will soon be either in the App Store or on our backup drives. With the spread of fibre optic cables, even downloading extreme bloatware such
as Photoshop CS6 will be a 10 minute task.

In North America cheap unlimited data contracts and very high download speeds
are already common. (I miss my cable modem).

It won't be long, I am guessing, before we keep an external SuperDrive in the cupboard to occasionally rip a CD we came across while tidying out the garage,
or to read a client's data from a rapidly deteriorating DVD backup.

Cheers,
Carlo.


Sent from my iPad

On 12/02/2011, at 11:45, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote:


Hi Carlo

Yes, completely agree.
Like you say, it doesn't take much sometimes for people to work things. The flash drives was a large one, as you mentioned. I remember reading once that no one else could get a good market of a particular one has "someone" had bought them all and supply was dried up. Needless to say, not long after a
new model iPod. Etc etc.
Even Apple themselves had done some "oops, we did that too early", like accidentally making live their Apple site with a new product before it was announced. Not for long as it's taken down just as quick, but it's always
long enough for someone to catch a glimpse of it.
I think even Time Magazine did a slip up once with a front page product too
early.
With some many angles and media and digital content to cover, it's
surprising it doesn't happen more often. So it's all done very well.
And there will always be people who know how to read all the clues
(2+2=4),..and then those who read the clues wrong (2+2=5). :o)
That's what makes it all fun and exciting.
I always love the forums before and after announcements. All the things that should be or will be in the "un-announced" model. Then the complaining after
it as it isn't there, and how could they do that,..lol.
Was interested to see the camera side is that same, thanks for that Susan.
Good to see it happens with other products as well. Lol ;)

And yes Apple are a bit forward with their thinking, which is good thing. They know what to do before most. Once in a blue moon, it might be a bit radical and causes a stir (missing Firewire on Ai MacBook,..the online petition for that grew massively and very quickly). Next model revision we
had the MacBookPro 13" with Firewire again (and same on the white
MacBook),..then it disappeared again with the current white MacBook. But not
much a price difference to move up to 13" MacBookPro.
But yes, overall they add or remove things before others.
Omg,..you mean I can't use my 3.5" floppy disks anymore!?!?! Oh noes!!! :o( (sarcasm intended). I still have a USB Floppy Drive kicking around for the times I need to access something for clients. I think the last time I used
it was a year ago,..lol.

SSD Drives I can see as a good thing given their "Safety", so once pricing is a bit better then yes we may see that a lot more. I'm not sold yet on non Optical Drives in machines. Certainly in some aspects yes, digital downloads are fine for some things. But for others,...hmm yeh. I'm not sure I would like to download 8GB of a particular software I'd just purchased. Not here in Australia with our internet. Though, lets say software came on USB thumb drives (like the new MacBook Air "software CD" which is the tiniest of tiny USB drive) then I might be persuaded. With the cost of USB stick now so cheap, that may be a great alternative. Lose the Optical drive and if we might to buy we have either an external burner to share around all machines, Remote Disk feature for the one machine in the house, and/or USB drive for
certain software.

Can you imagine downloading CS5 Design Premium without an optical drive.
It's like 2 DVD's and then some! Lol.
So yeh,...I'm not sold as yet. However in saying that, I've changed out the optical drive for two clients with laptops for the SSD Drive in the optical drive holder. So they now run a 256GB SSD as their main drive and a 750GB
7200rpm 2.5" drive as their data drive in their 15" MacBook Pro.
They do still have an external SuperDrive though. And Remote Disk in the
office as well.
So useful for them. For me, out on the road with the laptop, I still have times I need to access disks or things, so couldn't really see not having it. And carry something else to read discs,..well, maybe that would be an option. But it's more kit to cart around,... I almost need a suitcase as it
is now,..lol :)
But I'm sure when Apple do it, there will be outcry again, like it was with
the 3.5" floppy, but it doesn't take long for that to change.
I remember working in an Apple reseller shop at the time the iMac's come out without them. People would say "oh, what will I do". Once you explained to
them, how often did you use it, or why did you want it and explained
anything small enough to fit on a floppy can now be emailed or for backup their's better options (zip etc at that time) that hold a lot more as file sizes are bigger etc. So it was just a matter of showing the alternatives. (I'm also answering my own thing there about Optical drives,..lol,..almost).


But yes,..I think we'll see a lot more change in the not too distant future.
That's one thing with technology, it never stand still.
I want a cool Apple watch (not an iPod nano) that has my home folder on it and I can plug it in to any machine, reboot and their is my computer. ;) And it has bluetooth, so I can load "some music" and make phone calls from it. And it can't be bigger then 1.5cm square and holds 20GB. :) Apple,..Go!
:o)))

I'll stop rambling now.
Hope some of that makes sense. I don't always write down my points well, so
it sometimes loses the thing I was trying to say,...lol :)

Time to go do some more work ,....

Enjoy your day all.

Kind Regards
Daniel




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