Morning Daniel,

AVID is offering %60 of Media Composer for FCP customers.
Pro level application compatibility not an issue. 
Expensive Plug-Ins, but it is a pro app.

Premier from Adobe as another Alternative. 
It does now function within OS X very well, although Graphics Acceleration is 
Nvidia based which for some within Mac community an issue.
Does allow all versions of FCP to be imported and utilised. FCP X will not 
revisit old projects.
Adobe now offering a %50 rebate, for FCS users.
I have found Adobe Enterprise License tedious, but they are a Pro-App?

I do not use Premier Pro, but have worked at installations whom do. Improved 
with 5.5.
I personally use FCS 2 with Apple products and many plug-ins , and lots of 
Clips collected footage and projects. Massive Database!
This being a main reason for not upgrading to FCP X, as with community 
Apple Shake in this collection also.

But I have been moving to AVID over past year or so as Apple did hint at not 
continuing  FCS2.
As Matthew so eloquently put PRO-SUMER is market base. 
Recently Apple has not been so loyal to those which have supported company, but 
we endure.

I suppose one reason for going to Intel, allowing users to instal and run 
alternatives to those Apple has rejected.

Premier Pro seems to be best all in one solution, 64bit so extremely fast with 
lots of ram, After Effects excellent program.

I would suggest any body looking at alternatives to download trial versions 
first, investigate total upgrade.
Especially with Avid... many plug-ins, and software packages to make complete 
studio.
Beware of ongoing upgrade costs with all software packages, especially AVID 
plug-ins some have annuities?

Cheers!
`RobD..

On 09Jul2011, at 10:49 pm, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
> LOL... Have to pay that one. That was quite good ;)
> Hehehe.
> 
> But yes, I've got a few clients that looked at it and decided there was no
> way at the moment they would consider using that in their businesses.....
> It was just too much missing that they couldn't rely on, especially if
> sharing files with others working for them.
> 
> Maybe after a few more "tweaks" it might be a "Pro" Pro Application again :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/7/11 10:42 PM, "Matthew Healey" <mat...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Apple redefined "Pro" a while ago. It used to mean "Use this if your job and
>> livelihood relies on this product". Now it means "Use this if your really
>> passionate about make great home movies".
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/07/2011, at 10:52 AM, cm wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi James and Mike,
>>> 
>>> Here is an interesting update on the Final Cut Pro affair. Apple may be
>>> considering resuming sales of FCP 7 to studio customers but at the same time
>>> they seem to be working furiously to the add the missing features to FCP X
>>> 
>>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/07/07/apple_looking_into_re_offering_
>>> final_cut_pro_7_volume_licenses_after_fcp_x_backlash.html
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Carlo
>>> 
>>> On 2011-07-07, at 13:44, Mike Murray wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi James
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with Carlo's analysis.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm exploring FCP X (and Motion and Compressor) and finding that it's
>>>> excellent, intuitive and powerful so far, with plenty of upside
>>>> promised/rumoured. I'm creating camera archives of all my digital DV tapes
>>>> through its archiving procedure which is just a little flaky (sometimes the
>>>> process 'hangs' at the last clip on the tape; sometimes it doesn't). The
>>>> archives are 'skimmable' through FCP X which opens up a whole new world of
>>>> video that I'd forgotten I had.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it's going to be a great product, but I agree that the big film/TV
>>>> producers have been left high and dry and are shouting loudly. The 
>>>> 'support'
>>>> discussion groups are ringing with shrill comments about the end of
>>>> civilisation as they know it...
>>>> 
>>>> But the products worth trying out...you can still run earlier versions of
>>>> Final Cut (Pro and Express), although the installation will move your old
>>>> Final Cut Pro to a new folder. You'll need to keep these old versions,
>>>> especially if you need to rework projects. FCP X won't open existing Final
>>>> Cut projects, but will open .mov files (and many others), so you can always
>>>> export a Final Cut project as a .mov file and open it with FCP X.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Mike
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 07/07/2011, at 10:13 AM, cm wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have tried the latest version of Final Cut Pro X and it is very 
>>>>> polished,
>>>>> functional and intuitive. For a, so-called, prosumer product it is
>>>>> excellent. The complaints are coming from professional studios who have
>>>>> lost some of the features that they had in Final Cut Pro 7 Studio, the
>>>>> previous version of the product. The previous version of FCP has been
>>>>> declared end-of-life. The main problems are that FCP X will not import
>>>>> projects from the old version, does not have support for multiple cameras
>>>>> (filming simultaneously as is done in a feature film), will not support 
>>>>> the
>>>>> Camera Red system, and has lost support for some professional codecs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The new product is being likened to Apples introduction of OS X, which was
>>>>> at first less functional that OS 9 but which had an eye on the future.
>>>>> Others think that Apple is abandoning the professional market, which is a
>>>>> small niche, in favour of the much larger prosumer market. Apple for its
>>>>> part does not seem to be backing down and is offering a refund to
>>>>> disgruntled buyers of FCP X. It has promised that multiple camera support
>>>>> will be offered in an upgrade.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am following the debate with interest and am sure there is a team of
>>>>> developers somewhere on the Apple campus putting in some all-nighters. :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Carlo
>>>> 
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>>>> TimeTrackers
>>>> East Fremantle
>>>> Western Australia
>>>> 
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>>>> Fax 08 9339 0519
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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