To quote a (very) famous writer,
"what's in a name"
so what if we change the name, the people still stay the same.
If more people connect because of a different name isn't that better?

robin


On 12/09/2012, at 5:15 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:

> OOPS ... I forgot another point I did hint at it my first post to the list.
> 
> In the post from the Committee it was mentioned having to explain the WAMUG 
> name. Isn't this sort of doing the right thing, as it's getting them 
> "enquiring" about it.  
> Once you've got them asking what it is, you then explain what WAMUG is, what 
> it does (covering all Apple products) etc etc.
> 
> You have then got them intrigued enough to enquire about it,.... so you've 
> "got them",... then you can sell them on the idea to come and see, come to a 
> meeting or join the Mailing List.
> 
> Well that's it from me, all done, nothing more to say.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 12/09/2012, at 4:57 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi WAMUGers,
>> 
>> Well, I have said "Hi WAMUGers" another time ;-)
>> 
>> I've been giving some more thought to this and watching the list and 
>> comments and pondering the following, which I haven't seen answered as yet, 
>> so will re-post for interest sake, some of the queries raised so far, as 
>> well as some points of interest I have.
>> 
>> First off, I'm assuming that appleuserswa.org.au would be the new website 
>> address. After doing a search of registered Domain Names, I noticed it was 
>> registered already, which I then discovered was by WAMUG. Just curious why 
>> this was registered when it has not been agreed on as yet?
>> 
>> Secondly, Merv mentioned the other day that the Special Meeting requires a 
>> 28 day notice, so may not fall in time for the 2nd October. I'm assuming 
>> this would then need to be the November meeting to keep in line with the 
>> constitution.
>> 
>> The Committee mention a marketing push in the original post. Has a marketing 
>> push been tried currently with WAMUG as it stands to date?
>> Couldn't this be tried as another (much easier) way to try and recruit more 
>> members. Surely just advertising WAMUG - come along to learn all about and 
>> gain extensive knowledge and help for all things Apple - iPhone, iPad, 
>> AppleTV. New members welcome to the monthly meetings. Or something along 
>> that theme? 
>> 
>> Any marketing material would still just refer to "the whole range of Apple 
>> products and services" that you're trying to target. And those older, longer 
>> (or lost) members who still remember WAMUG, it may be enough of a "Refresh" 
>> to dig them out of the woodwork. 
>> As mentioned in my first email, I still get a lot of people that email me 
>> privately about how great a service is given by WAMUG.
>> 
>> Which also brings out the question of costing? Has a budget or costing been 
>> looked at for all this as yet? Or is that to follow the name change? I know 
>> you have to spend money to make money as the saying goes, but we (as WAMUG 
>> as a whole) obviously still need to cover the running costs of the group I 
>> would imagine without "blowing out the budget". 
>> Surely if we could try a marketing push without the added expensive of all 
>> these changes first, would show if it's going to work or not?
>> 
>> Another point that has been worrying me is... How does Apple itself feel 
>> about this, given that it wasn't that long ago (3-4 years I think) that they 
>> "took back" AppleCentre names from the Resellers. Are we (as WAMUG) allowed 
>> now to use Apple Users? Or is that something they would take back down the 
>> track as well?
>> 
>> As everyone knows I am all for WAMUG, I believe in WAMUG's principles and 
>> work and I try to do the very best I possibly can to help people on the 
>> Mailing List.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> On 11/09/2012, at 9:39 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi WAMUGers,
>>> 
>>> With sadness that will probably be the last time I use "Hi WAMUGers". 
>>> I'm not against change but I am feeling sadness that the name WAMUG 
>>> (Western Australian Macintosh Users' Group)  will be no longer. 
>>> A great reputation was built under that name, and I am honoured and proud 
>>> to have been awarded a Honorary Life Membership of WAMUG. 
>>> People from all over the world have contacted me congratulating us on the 
>>> level of support we give on WAMUG Mailing List. 
>>> 
>>>> The committee proposes that our group of Apple enthusiasts be know as 
>>>> "Apple Users WA".  As opposed to WAMUG which has to be explained to all on 
>>>> first hearing
>>> 
>>> I don't agree that WAMUG has to be explained TO ALL on first hearing, sure 
>>> as any company/group name abbreviated to an acronym there are some people 
>>> who you need to give an explanation. If "Apple Users WA" is abbreviated to 
>>> AUWA you would be explaining to more people.
>>> 
>>> Will the new website be "www.appleuserswa.org.au"?  Will the email Address 
>>> be appleuser...@appleuserswa.org.au?
>>> A new Constitution will also need to be prepared.
>>> 
>>> I am not wanting to sound negative about the change as change is normally 
>>> for the best. Just one last point I would like to make is from what I 
>>> understand the majority of  Members are "Online Members"; members who for 
>>> varying reasons can not/do not attend WAMUG Meetings and rely purely on the 
>>> WAMUG Mailing list.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 10/09/2012, at 10:00 PM, wamug announce <annou...@wamug.org.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Muggers,
>>>> 
>>>> As you know the WAMUG Committee is working hard to increase the 
>>>> availability of our service to Apple users. A number of our recent 
>>>> meetings have included well received hands on demonstrations in addition 
>>>> to the traditional segment for problem solving and the sharing of ideas. 
>>>> Though we are a vibrant and active group and have a particularly 
>>>> responsive, helpful mail list, the Committee would like to instigate a 
>>>> marketing push to increase meeting attendance, attract some new members, 
>>>> and get involved in community outreach. A model that we can aspire to is 
>>>> that of the dynamic Apple-Q in Queensland. ( http://www.apple-q.org.au )
>>>> 
>>>> This marketing will include a revamping of the web-site, printing of 
>>>> business cards, and advertising in local publications and on local notice 
>>>> boards. Before the marketing initiative begins a name change would greatly 
>>>> help with public recognition of what our group does. The committee 
>>>> proposes that our group of Apple enthusiasts be know as "Apple Users WA".  
>>>> As opposed to WAMUG which has to be explained to all on first hearing, 
>>>> Apple Users WA obviously describes a group Apple product users.
>>>> 
>>>> We support the whole range of Apple products and services in addition to 
>>>> the much loved, time honoured Mac. Newer products such as the iPod, 
>>>> iPhone, iPad and Apple TV all contribute to the easily accessible Apple 
>>>> ecosystem that we have come to rely upon. Rounding out the Apple combined 
>>>> ecosystem are services that include iCloud, iTunes, iTunes U, iTunes 
>>>> Match, the App Store, and the Mac App Store. It is now possible to own and 
>>>> iPhone and an iPad, and with the use iCloud have an extremely versatile 
>>>> and functional setup. Younger people in particular are often in a position 
>>>> where they do not even know what a Mac is. Also Windows users are often 
>>>> wooed into the Apple fold by the iPhone and iPad, but may initially not 
>>>> know the benefits of converting to an iMac or a MacBook. We would like to 
>>>> help these sections of the community as well as those who make use of the 
>>>> full range of Apple products.
>>>> 
>>>> Even though we long standing members are quite comfortable with, and 
>>>> likely even quite attached to the WAMUG name, a name that better reflects 
>>>> our activities and sounds more accessible will help us promote the use of 
>>>> the Apple product range and provide a obvious support group for the 
>>>> growing collection of new Apple users.
>>>> 
>>>> So while aficionados principally do our work on a Mac, increasingly 
>>>> certain specialised functions are better served by using newer Apple 
>>>> products and services. The Committee proposes that we change the name to 
>>>> Apple Users WA to better reflect this.
>>>> 
>>>> This name change will require the passing of a motion at a Special Meeting 
>>>> of WAMUG. We propose that the meeting of Tuesday 2 October be such a 
>>>> Special Meeting. An email with details will follow shortly.
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> WAMUG Committee
>>>> 
> 
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