Massimo, We're on the same wavelength.
Though I have to say that to many in the IT trade press, 'Enterprise' to them is the Fortune 5000. Which the joke is on them. That side of the business spends a lot of money but the margins are nonexistent. I spent the last 10 years of a 30year IT career beating the margin out of the likes of IBM and Microsoft for a Fortune 10. On Jun 3, 10:15 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > When I say "enterprise" I do not mean "large businesses", I rather > mean "businesses and non profit organizations" that use computers and > follow a more or less professional software development cycles. > > I agree with you that small businesses are more profitable and a > better market for web2py than large enterprises. > > Massimo > > On Jun 3, 9:07 pm, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Massimo, > > > Following Horst's observations from a different angle. > > > 1) Don't worry about whether Web2Py is 'Enterprise Ready'. That is > > Tech Press/Vendor Spiel to create marketshare with appeal. Its verbal > > junk. Go take a look at table 2a > > --http://www.census.gov/epcd/www/smallbus.html > > . The tally of firms <100 employees to those >100 outrank them 10x. > > > The number of firms with budgets that support $1m+ software projects > > is less than 20k. There are probably 100 'Enterprise Providers' (eg > > Microsoft, IBM, Sun, Oracle) chasing that small field. So when I hear > > a programmer state they do 'Enterprise level production development' > > like some badge, Django or otherwise they too are chasing that small > > field of money. Most likely as a member of one of those 'Enterprise > > Providers'. > > > 2) The opportunity is in that <100 employee range. Those firms rarely > > have million dollar budgets. Nor do they typically have the budgets to > > buy WebSphere platforms or SAP software. But their need is just as > > great for specialized software. > > > Better to cater to the smaller firms who would benefit from web2py. It > > is just as important to be able to be profitable in the small scale as > > the large. Fact more so. > > > That Web2Py can scale is the icing on the cake. > > > JohnMc > > > On Jun 3, 7:30 pm, Horst Herb <my.list.subscripti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:19 AM, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> > > > wrote: > > > > > because those people are influential people in the Django community, > > > > the same people posting negative comments about web2py everywhere. > > > > I am not sure whether such comments matter. > > > People seriously using such development tools will have a good look > > > before they embark on an expensive journey anyway, and I think in that > > > regard web2py has a lot going for it apart from the lack of usable > > > up-to-date documentation > > > > Let's get good apps out, that will spread more good word about the > > > tools we use than any silly comments on time wasting web sites > > > > I for my part can vouch that so far development with web2py has been > > > - a bit faster than with RoR > > > - far more legible code than with RoR > > > - I managed to hire 4 good people so far to to web2py work for me. > > > They seem all competent, and so far have delivered in time and to > > > specs. No exemption so far, and that's a quite unique experience for > > > me (when developing a similar project with RoR I had hundreds of > > > applicants but in the end nobody delivered in tiome and to specs and > > > it turned into a financial nightmare until the whole project was > > > shelved) > > > > This weekend I am going to present the first version of my medical web > > > app (pre alpha, but seemingly functional) at a medical conference. If > > > acceptance is good and no major hickups during demo (when lots of > > > doctors are going to hammer it all at the same time) we'll go public > > > with the project. I am then happy to give a testimony on theweb2py web > > > site of our experience so far, including the exceptional experience of > > > being able to easily hire good competent developers familiar with > > > web2py, as well as the incredible responsiveness and helpfulness of > > > this list with a very low signal:noise ratio > > > > Horst --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
