Yea, I tried that trick. It's not the same. The results were less (much less) then I'd hoped for. Granted it worked, but in a very utilitarian sense. And, quite frankly, the results were very ugly.

For example, it doesn't allow me to selectively view only certain objects. It just sorta "splats" everything up there whether I want to see them or not.

You know, working on Mac has always been about ease of use and WYSIWYG editing (at least to some degree). I'm really disheartened that now WebObjects developers are being sent "backwards" in this regard.

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On Jan 21, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Mr. Pierre Frisch wrote:

As far as diagram view for models you can use OmniGraffle. Just drop you model on top of the application and enjoy.

Pierre
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On 21-Jan-07, at 10:33 AM, Galen Rhodes wrote:

From the looks of it we're supposed to use Eclipse+WOLips.

I've played with it a little. Eclipse is VERY nice indeed but as far as WOLips goes I am still largely unimpressed. It definitely takes longer using the WOLips tools because they lack any form of WYSIWYG editing. Even the WOLips EOModel editor appears to lack a "Diagram View" which I find indispensable.

Perhaps these things will come to WOLips but my last 15 years of experience with OpenSource does not leave me with much hope in this. OpenSource projects tend to reach a "good enough" point and then they stop progressing.

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On Jan 21, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Andrew Satori wrote:

Alright, so with the official 'Java-Bridge is dead' status for the future, what does this mean for WOBuilder and the graphical creation of WOComponents?

As far as I can tell, that leaves editing the .wo bundles by hand. While not impossible, it is certainly a step backwards, so my question is, what is the rest of the community planning on using in place of WOBuilder?

Andy

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