On 17 Nov 2010, at 11:43, Chuck Hill wrote:

> On Nov 15, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Ian Joyner wrote:
>> 
>> One student in his experience report mentioned that professional programmers 
>> should spend extra time on making their stuff usable and easily installable 
>> if they are going to expect people to use their systems. Salient advice all 
>> around and I think he scored 100%.
> 
> I think an important distinction here is between "expect people to use their 
> systems" and "allow people to use their systems".  Wonder largely falls in 
> the second category.  "I made this because I found it interesting and you can 
> use it if you want."  Neither WO nor Wonder are now marketed products and 
> there is little incentive to make them appear like they are.

Well I meant expect more in the sense of (cmd-ctrl-d) "regarding something as 
likely to happen" and from the Thesaurus in the anticipate sense, not the 
require or insist on sense.

People use Rails, Django, and Pylons because they think they're cool. Don't 
know how to get that cool factor into WO. But removing each hurdle would help. 
Perhaps development on different platforms would help - if we wanted to teach 
WO, we couldn't because that would require students to go out and buy Macs 
(something we subtly encourage but don't 'expect').

Ian
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