On Nov 16, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:

> On 17/11/2010, at 1:31 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>>> 
>>> And maybe because it's only a very small group of people who try to do some 
>>> marketing. Counting the time I took to cleanup the wiki, WOWODC 
>>> organization, WOWODC presentations, wocommunity.org, mailing lists, etc., I 
>>> have spent more than 250 hours this year on community stuff.  And I'm 
>>> starting to think that those 250 hours were wasted...
>> 
>> I would not exactly say wasted, but...  the community does seem lethargic.  
>> Or apathetic.
> 
> I'm not sure I would completely agree.  I think it's largely a critical mass 
> issue.  I used to be moderately involved in a few of the FreeBSD mailing 
> lists, for example, and the _proportions_ of people playing the various roles 
> are about the same, but the communities differ in size by probably a couple 
> of orders of magnitude.  If we were the size of FreeBSD, we'd have 10 
> Pascals, and we'd be rocking.


There is a lot of truth in that.  However, we are not going to get the numbers 
unless we improve the non-technical infrastructure.  Which leaves us rather 
stuck.  We need to get more out of who we have to get more people involved.  
Why don't more WO developers do something to help make things better?  What can 
the rest of us do to make them want to?  Are those the questions we should be 
asking?


Chuck

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Chuck Hill             Senior Consultant / VP Development

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